On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:28:01 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 05:58:31 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

>> Note that I had used the word within quotations so as to indicate
>> that the "facts" might not have really been proven as such.

> But to many people the use of "quotes" is only another method of
> "emphasizing" a word or a statement, if you see what I mean <G>

> I knew what you meant. But it might have been better if you had
> phrased it as "so-called facts" or something like that. Then there
> wouldn't have been any confusion.

> I agree that too many lies have been told about this whole business.
> But that is politicing (politicking?) at it's highest level.

>> If by definition all "FACTS" are statements that have been PROVEN to be
>> TRUE, then why do we always hear so many politicians and news analysts
>> using the phrase "true facts"?  Is there any such thing as a "false
>> fact"?

> Of course there is, in politics <G>

> OTOH I don't want to get mixed up in a flamewar, so I'll bow out of this
> "discussion"* at this stage.

> * as in "so-called discussion" <G>

All very fine points, and excellently illustrated.

Sam Heywood

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