John Plocher wrote: > [Note that this mail is going out to the extended OpenSolaris ARC > community as well as Derek and Stephen] > > Derek and Stephen, > > As part of the opening up of PSARC, we would like to move the PSARC > aliases out onto OpenSolaris.org. Before we actually make any changes, > we would like to brainstorm the best way to do them. What follows is an > initial starting point for discussion (see PSARC 2006/569 for additional > context): > > In order to have effective external ARC discussions, I think we need the > following: > > o Fix the cross posting and Bcc problems on opensolaris.org. > This is the configuration mess that requires all senders > to be a member of all the aliases they crosspost to. In > addition, fix the "implicit destination" moderation hell > resulting from the sac mail filter Bcc'ing to the > opensolaris aliases.
While this applies regardless of what I'm about to say, I feel this would be somewhat limited by ceasing to Cc the related opensolaris project on *all* ARC mail related to them, and merely sending them the initial case mail, with followups set for the related ARC list. Which would also have benefits as far as keeping all the mail on osol-arc. (I thought this had been mentioned in the "How do we change things?" discussion at the end of the the 2006/550 call too, but I could be wrong) > o Create a set of ARC aliases on opensolaris.org (details follow): > > opensolaris-arc@ > opensolaris-arc-discuss@ > opensolaris-arc-record@ > opensolaris-arc-chair@ > opensolaris-arc-agenda-request@ > opensolaris-arc-agenda-interest@ > opensolaris-arc-member-list@ > opensolaris-arc-intern-list@ > opensolaris-arc-licensee-list@ > opensolaris-arc-interest@ > > I generally agree with Darren and Alan here, in that if practical this plethora of aliases should be trimmed down somewhat, and that unless the intent is to call this 'OSARC', the naming of aliases should directly relate to the naming of the entity behind them. > Details: > > opensolaris-arc@ > No - Open subscription > No - Archived > No - Mirrored in jive forum > Content: > psarc-ext at sun.com > Use: > General ARC review discussion alias for > Open ARC Cases. All ARC review related > mail will be sent to this alias, which > forwards the mail on to > > psarc-ext at Sun > > which forwards the mail on to > > [the sac mail filter] > > The sac mail filter does a bunch of validation > work, archiving and filing, and then sends > the mail on (via a Bcc:) to the lists of > interested people: > > opensolaris-arc-member-list@ > opensolaris-arc-intern-list@ > opensolaris-arc-interest@ > as well as > per-case IAM:Interest lists I assume current subscriptions to osol-arc would be migrated to osol-arc-interest, or other more appropriately named alias? I still have concerns that the path mail is taking through this system is far more complex than it needs to be, though given the lack of description of the tools driving it, I could easily be incorrect. "You are in a maze of twisty little aliases, all alike" -- Rich
