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On 2020-01-12 at 00:04, arch-dev-public@archlinux.org wrote: > On 1/10/20 4:42 PM, Christian Rebischke via arch-dev-public wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I would like to propose that we create todos for rebuilds of language > > specific packages. > > > > We had two major rebuilds in the last months: python3.8 and ruby2.7. > > > > Can we agree that we create a todo before such rebuilds? > > The advantages outweigh the disadvantages. We would gain: > > > > * More people help rebuilding the packages.' > > What help is needed? If this is just about having more people sed the > pkgrel variable with "$pkgrel + 1", then try to build it, more people > doesn't actually help. We have automated rebuilders which are very > capable in this regard. > > > * Every maintainer gets informed about the rebuild. > > I agree with you that this is indeed a problem, and I would like to > propose a pretty simple solution. Let's post on arch-dev-public to give > people a heads-up. > > This means even if your package failed to be detected for rebuilding and > would never appear on any TODO, you as a maintainer know that it > happened and can manually rebuild your package. > > > * Maintainers have the possibility to test the packages. > > At least for the python rebuilds, the process of rebuilding the > ecosystem is long and painfully drawn out, *because* packages with > failing testsuites cannot be rebuilt automatically and go onto a TODO > list of broken packages. > > Given this thread started because we just rebuilt ruby, can I assume > that PKGBUILDs for ruby packages are in the general habit of not > containing check() functions for running unittests? Either because > upstream does not have unittests or because they are not being run? > > If packages have upstream unittests but don't run them, then the > maintainer of the package has been derelict in his or her duty. > > If packages do NOT have upstream unittests, then this is unfortunate, > and I don't currently have an answer for what we should do. :( > > > If tools exist for creating todos, I would like to ask the persons with > > such tools to make them available for everybody (if not already > > happened). > > It's a website submission form that expects you to write some > explanatory message, then fill in a newline-separated list of pkgnames. > Any rebuilder must by definition have the latter, even if that rebuilder > is "I scrolled through archweb and did it all manually by flipping back > and forth between my terminal and my browser". > > No "tool for creating todos" need exist. Ask instead about tools for > enumerating language dependencies. > > ... > > For python, it's pretty simple. > > pkgfile -d '/usr/lib/python3.8/' > > For ruby, it's also pretty simple: > > pkgfile -d '/usr/lib/ruby/' Here are the instructions that I used to find the ruby packages https://gist.github.com/anatol/670a2768a97789d6a96b33010b7fedca -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: FlowCrypt 7.4.2 Gmail Encryption Comment: Seamlessly send and receive encrypted email wsFcBAEBCgAGBQJeGmgKAAoJELAoVO11Pg8fwTsQAJtOyNvia5wXkkTsdjrQ LLkLRw2EF79mMbJa+zN6/H7m/lJAIdZKXFjWmhar3lt+52d0J+7+WHPrqHH0 151hpuJ6SJpceGDkzbfIST9/i+++HcUB6a9vDcJPEx8RqYQFMPH/4JxGndCR Dg7bi2f9PzmYsv9KkZ6JsJ13Z/jRfiVozGf0J9b+xi79Z5Y5RMM91Q2hp8gR 6HFRw+S8+0j5P+1MlDlSSjPmflvC3wsYDRqcDZuaXtArmqb1BiGAK6s6d4aQ L11LQSdP8clgYfGPJpk4U37SDSyrkTaBM5yWQLPaKVB7DY2Z81OGd3Z34tMj QWsh/LZjgqtEOl+WkGcF2ykSa+mjpdyxrttotDh6Mwwa+7YFNxWMQiSO8Hmd Z1iI3SCzIhQ33t/3raE0MDSJM8nEQwwrkyI2nr0C2BFUEIwMkiRkcLr3KDwf MQI3Q9X3A0Fo5xwzWcEEjbJjwjGz9fzPcDh0JeOUs/e9Ck1TL/n4qwqhPeUr kJFrrzEAD6YcXCTdbudHFnbmrdDd0wdTpb2SAYZuKWhYusEMWn1oxDK6TnLe 5ufVTXP9uQyG5xoEUX95L4S0GAGqJ6jU9dY+B1TTfRZg+bG6nq+FdpverzHB WVN9opo7WqL8sE1fifViBbWo20KV0BCv3vUyFFBYkCLVcoIWgeeLHFZUegmr p/nl =4pkk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
