I was wondering the same things as cactus here, and have read some of the replies to this thread.
I'm not going to assert my opinion here, but rather cold hard facts. http://xentac.net/websvn/blame.php?repname=newsletter&path=%2F2005-08-07%2Fnewsletter-2005-Aug-07.html&rev=0&sc=0 The newsletter is not in fact written by devs, the majority of it usually has not been, even historically. The above link goes to a line-by-line "blame" display of the last newsletter. You see, the newsletter is subversion controlled, and so you can see who is responsible for what portions. Rather than childishly pointing fingers (which I've seen enough of in just a few threads to last me a lifetime), I'll leave that little tidbit of information to your interpretation. Have a nice evening. -S On Mon, Aug 08, 2005 at 09:56:01PM -0700, cactus wrote: > As a vehicle for "official" Archlinux news, I am disappointed by what I > read in the recent ArchLinux newsletter. > > > Q: I behaved like an ass on some of the Arch community channels (irc, > > forums etc) and is now banned. Does this mean that I'm not welcome > > anymore and that Arch moderators hates me? > > > A: No, it does not. You can normally just apologize and the ban will > > be closed. However, it's important to learn how to discuss in a PROPER > > way. It's allowed to flame if you can back up your stuff with some > > descent facts, but it's NOT allowed to behave like an ass for no > > reason at all. Not even if some other guys are doing it to you. > > Let me start by saying that I realize many people hail from different > cultures. Cultures where certain colloquial sayings likely bear more or > less weight than in others, and so such a phrase may be used > conversationally with no second though. Further, there are many Arch > users with whom English is not their mother tongue--even with those > which can claim such a thing, grammar sometimes eludes us--so > inconsistency in certain grammar elements is irrelevant to the discussion. > > Given that concession, and the fact that I am no where near what could > be considered a "prude", I am still curious if "behave like an ass" is > appropriate language for a newsletter. > > I was under the impression, perhaps mistaken, that the newsletter served > a dual purpose. To inform community members about the current state of > things, and as a tool for giving new users (and potential new users) a > glimpse inside the distribution. An ancillary marketing device, if you > will, but one that has an Archlinux dev team seal of approval (it > appears prominently on the front page in the "official news" section). > Is this appropriate language for such a thing? If I am mistaken in my > assumption about the focus of the newsletter, or how it is featured > prominently on the Archlinux.org front-page, then I can just overlook it > and move on--but let me know so I don't continue in my ignorance. > > However, I am having a bit more trouble simply overlooking what I take > as an exercise in needless public mocking of someone who made a mistake? > From an outsider viewing such a thing, it might even look silly and > senseless--perhaps funny even. From someone involved in the incident, it > could be perceived as purposefully hurtful and viscous. > > something more along the lines of the following could have easily > conveyed a similar message: > Q: I was banned from IRC (or Forums) by one of the moderators. What do I > do to get back in? > > A: First, think about the reason you were banned. If you feel it was > unwarranted, speak to a moderator. If you feel the need to apologize for > what, upon later reflection, you believe to have been inappropriate > behavior, then do so. > Please do not send tons of messages to moderators. Repeatedly messaging > a moderator seconds after banning is not a likely way to gain > re-admittance. Attempting to circumvent a ban (irc or forum), will be > looked upon rather harshly, and will likely result in a more permanent > or more serious ban. > > _______________________________________________ > arch mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
