Touche.  You know, you could have just said, "Shut up, Phil." and saved 
yourself some typing.

I'll try the diplomatic way.

Please can someone explain why hwdetect has been hardcoded into the Arch 
initscripts rather than provided separately as most similar tools are.  
Can someone also explain why this does not violate the KISS philosophy 
on which Arch is based and many of us have come to rely on.

How's that?  Better?

Phil

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>On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 09:45:13PM +0000, Philip Dillon-Thiselton wrote:
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>>Why the hell does hwdetect have to be in the initscripts pkg if it is 
>>going to need so many updates?  Generally I am pretty understanding of 
>>the devs and their odd whims but this one takes the biscuit.  I could 
>>not give two shits about hwdetect and certainly don't want it on my 
>>system if I don't need it and I certainly don't want to have to mess 
>>about with the inevitable .pacnew files everyday just because hwdetect 
>>is being updated.  Aside from all that it's a PITA for me and the 
>>gensplah initscripts - I have to update the whole pkg when hwdetect gets 
>>fixed and that should be handled entirely separately.  Why on earth 
>>can't hwdetect run using a daemon like hotplug rather than having it 
>>hardcoded and then be totally optional.  Quite frankly I'm amazed.
>>
>>I guess it would be less annoying if hwdetect wasn't a) so buggy b) 
>>reinventing the wheel and c) anti the Arch ethos.
>>
>>Sort it out, please.
>>
>>Phil
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