On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 11:22:08AM +0100, Essien Ita Essien wrote: > > > James Rayner wrote: > > On 12/6/05, Arnaud Fortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I agree with benoit ! > >>Initscripts / php / udev / hotplug / hwdetect ... these packages SHOULD > >>be tested before release in current ! And also largely commented with > >>some kind of HOW-TO ! > >>A good exemple is the remove of synchronisation between hal-fstab, it > >>was removed, nobody tells anybody of this new "feature" and udev was not > >>at this moment replacing the hal's fstab lacks !! > >>And what can we think about php5.1 droped directly in current ! Ok it > >>was corrected in 4 hours but what is the point of the testing repo then ... > >>Also I'm having problem with udev and USB Hard drive, I reinstall arch > >>from scratch, using hwdetect / udev and the hard drive doesn't mount > >>"automatically" anymore ! ... > >>I see the pmount trick ... and finally add a line in fstab ... > >> > > > > > > Arch is bleeding edge. See About page: http://www.archlinux.org/about.php > > > > Note the word bleeding. > > I know *bleeding* and I *love* bleeding, but I think Benoit's point is > communication. No one is complaining about staying with the times, but > the *average* user will appreciate it if when a *major* change is about > to be made, there is a mail with a brief explanation of what's about to > come. > > Currently, we sort of react to it, by putting up wiki's and howto's, but > not stuff like the initrd change that is coming, its going to be a big > change, and everyone has been primed for it already. If stuff like that > is done for *major* changes in the way we expect packages to work, I'm > actualy sure we'll get more ppl testing them out to make sure they're > stable as soon as possible.
How exactly should we notify all Archlinux users? Not everyone uses the mailing list or forum. These days there's a dev blog. For the most part, things that go into testing are talked about in the dev blog first. Maybe people should start reading that... http://archlinux.org/blog/ Updates would be much easier if I could just transmit my thoughts instantaneously to everyone else's mind. Jason -- If you understand, things are just as they are. If you do not understand, things are just as they are.
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