Nope. Not at all. Using X as root to run and/or maintain a server is a
considerable security issue. If that is not what the fella is doing then
the problem with sudo changing permissions when run in X is moot, and he
was confused. (Which I also spoke to/about.)
If this is not clear, that is o.k....and please ignore me.
Very best regards;
Bob Finch
> Err... i hope it was a joke. And a really bad one imo :P
>
> On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Ug....
>>
>> The point is/(was) that when in X running sudo has some interesting
>> and potentially odd and undesired behavior.
>>
>> This of course begs the question: are you running X as root when
>> adjusting your server ? (Gosh I hope not.)
>>
>> - If not, then by definition this problem does not apply to you, and
>> you have not understood the nature of the problem being discussed.
>> (And that is o.k, too, as we all misread stuff from time to time.)
>>
>> - If yes, then perhaps you need to consider NOT running X as root to
>> maintain a server.
>>
>> If you do not see why this a problem, then perhaps you should ignore
>> me. (Grin) ... I surely would if I were you.
>>
>> And considering the nature of this and other problems with sudo,
>> perhaps you should reconsider your use of sudo. (Again feel free to
>> ignore me on this advise as well.)
>>
>>
>> Very best regards;
>>
>> Bob Finch
>>
>>
>> >>Anyway, whats the harm in using kdesu / gksu anyway ? :P
>> >
>> > Its a pain in the ass when you are so use to sudo. When I use my
>> server as root I'm so use to typing in sudo pacman -S blah (this is
>> when I'm in root)
>> >
>> > On 2/15/06, Rohan Dhruva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> No, it happens to every X app. Maybe you are very lucky ;) But the
>> same problem has occured to me to any distro when running any X
>> program through sudo. Anyway, whats the harm in using kdesu / gksu
>> anyway ? :P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/15/06, Sten Larsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > I have never had any trouble running emacs or firestarter through
>> >> sudo. Is this a problem specific to kde?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2/15/06, Rohan Dhruva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > On fluxbox and xfce i have used kdesu successfully. I think
>> even
>> >> gksu
>> >> would
>> >> > > work. Someone in #kde once explained that sudo will reset the
>> >> permissions of
>> >> > > the above file to root since it is "ignorant" whereas
>> {gk,kde}su
>> >> knows
>> >> about
>> >> > > the X permissions.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rohan.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 2/15/06, bardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > > > 2006/2/15, Rohan Dhruva < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> > > > > Never ever run X applications as root using "sudo". Always
>> use
>> >> "kdesu"
>> >> > > if on
>> >> > > > > kde, or "gksu" if on gnome.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > What if I use neither (xfce, *box, enlightenment)?
>> >> > > > And BTW, what's the risk in using it?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > bardo
>> >> > > >
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