On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:18:29 +0200, Simo Leone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 11:55:03PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:18:37 +0200, Roman Kyrylych
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> *confused* Wouldn't it just be ati and nvidia packages who would not
>> >> work
>> >> with the new xorg in /testing(if 7.1 went there ofc)?
>> >
>> > Probably there will be others but these two are the most important
>> > because most users use them. Of course there are users who use nv,
>> > vmware, unichrome and other open-source drivers. But Xorg 7.1 does not
>> > brings any huge significant improvements for these users.
>> > So, at this point there is no need for upgrading to Xorg 7.1.
>> > I suppose that Nvidia and ATI will change their drivers soon. After
>> > that Xorg 7.1 will hit Testing. Bringing Xorg 7.1 to Testing right now
>> > does not give users anything significant (see above).
>> >
>>
>> 7.1 have numerous improvements:
>> http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.1/doc/RELNOTES.html
>>
>> atleast there were some i910(can't remember excactly) graphics users  
>> which
>> needed this new rel to be able to use X.
>>
>> If those and other users need this rel isn't it our duty to put it in
>> testing
>> causing us no havoc since we don't have to upgrade if we don't want to  
>> but
>> those
>> users will get a working xorg off the bat.
>>
> Is it one's duty to please every possible scenario?
ach, i knew i was gonna get in trouble over that one. English is not my  
first language. What i meant was that if all we need to do to get this  
update on the road is to put xorg 7.1 in testing and implement a warning  
possibility to pacman and give the message, shouldn't we do it?

The warning functionality will also be a new feature which we'll most  
certainly be able to take advantage of in the future as well.

so i don't see so many negatives...

> If that's your
> argument, then it's also your duty to start porting Arch to i586, i486,
> i386, alpha, sparc, [random arch goes here]. "Cuz those users will get a
> working archlinux off the bat, but it won't bother the other users".
We should really do this yes, what if everyone gathered old  
computers(buisnisses throw away hundreds of computers every day) and sent  
them to me or someone else. Then we could install some clustering software  
on them all and use them as a compile farm which we could use to compile  
lots of other architectures. Then we could raise a donation to get money  
to get some permanent place to put our supercomputer :)

something like that.

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