On May 31, 2007, at 7:18 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

> On 5/31/07, Benoit Chesneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I don't need collaboration to solve a problem. If problem there is,
>> the problem is : no answer from archlinux.fr guys since 8 months.
>>
>> That's the problem. You can't discuss it with someone that don't
>> answer.
>
> Again, this is NOT conducive to garnering community support.  While
> I've been trying to act impartial in all this, I can't.  You're acting
> childish.  You, above all *do* need a mediator, if this is the
> attitude you approach these things with.
>
> As for communication, perhaps it is again related to the manner in
> which you hold yourself, because I was able to get responses from the
> other guys fairly quickly, and I don't even speak french.
>
> How do you expect to hold together a community with an attitude like
> this?  Running a site like this puts you in a leadership roll.
>
> If you would like an example: Pierre who manages archlinux.de does a
> great job, and in fact was pulled on as a developer, due in part to
> the great job he does with the german community.  Why is it that the
> French community has a "leader" such as you when other communities are
> so good at being... well, communities and not dictatorships.


You don't understand the fucking thing I said. You say childish. I  
say you
are blind.

I make a proposal, I wait for an answer.That's simple. You have  
answers from
archlinux.fr guys. Super. How should I care it ? So they could say  
what they want on
big portal, but that's not important since they answer you kindly ?  
Interresting.

They also kindly forget to answer to a proposal or make bad things.  
They are
kindly guys. Super. Hey wake up man.

You speak about users . But well what the big deal ? So users have to  
choose ?
Oh very hard . I din't want the split. They splittedd. And for what?  
Because I refuse
them admin access to my machine. Why I refuse them, because I couln't  
trust them.
I am  a really bad guy. You know what, think a little before to post  
anything so ridiculous.

Oh well. You live with a very bad conception of life. I am waiting  
for a proposal. If you
have so kindly answer, then ask them what they want. Act as mediator  
if you want it.
Oh don't forget real users. Those who continue to use a  
archlinuxfr.org. Don't forget
  that there is a team that manage archlinuxfr.org. And don't forget  
that there is also
some morale behind this not only the result.

BenoƮt



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