Hi Ed, the mappings question is an interesting one. I'm looking over the CIDOC --> LIDO mapping now. CIDOC is more thorough, so going from that ontology to LIDO is, in a way, a metadata simplification process. Where we've been talking about how you could add a new ontology (LIDO, e.g.) to Arches, and then create resource models using that ontology, what you've pointed out is that maybe there could be an export option that will take a CIDOC resource and convert it to LIDO for an end user.
This is technically possible, but would require some extra configuration, and I don't think there are plans to include that functionality at this time. The concept is intriguing though. Also, it's very much a case-by-case situation, because where the LIDO is based directly on CIDOC, other ontologies are not, and would likely have a much more complex conversion process. Adam On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 12:58:50 PM UTC-5, Dennis Wuthrich wrote: > > Ed, > > As Adam suggested, Arches v4 will allow users to use the CRM ontology or > opt not to use a formal ontology at all. In practice, what this means is > that Arches v4 provides tools to ensure that graphs conform to the classes > and properties of the CRM. Users are free to use other ontologies such as > LIDO (or no ontology) with Arches, but they'll need to ensure their graphs > are internally consistent with the ontology. Arches v4 is designed so that > it should be straightforward for a developer to add support for additional > ontologies. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers, > > Dennis > > On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 8:43:37 AM UTC-7, Edmund Lee wrote: >> >> Thanks Adam, >> >> I am, I'll admit, out of my comfort zone here, but is there any mileage >> in considering the existing mappings to the CIDOC CRM ontology available at >> http://www.cidoc-crm.org/crm_mappings.html ? Does Arches (or could >> someone with some Arches development expertise) set things up so that an >> Arches database could provide data in another standardised format, if there >> is an existing mapping to the CRM to assist them? >> >> All the best >> Ed >> >> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 5:28:26 PM UTC+1, Adam Cox wrote: >> >>> Hi George and Ed, >>> >>> The short answer is that I don't believe there are currently any plans >>> to support these ontologies; by default Arches uses the CIDOC-CRM. >>> >>> To be more specific, this depends on the version of Arches. In version >>> 3, enforcing any ontology is completely up to the user, so you could create >>> graphs that are based on LIDO just as easily as if you are making them for >>> the CIDOC CRM. >>> >>> In version 4, CIDOC-CRM will come loaded in the database, and users will >>> be able to choose whether to enforce that ontology when making new resource >>> graphs or not (if you choose the latter, you will have no restrictions on >>> how you construct the graphs. >>> >>> There is no UI in v4 for editing or creating new ontologies (LIDO, for >>> example) but with a bit of behind the scenes work you could load it into >>> your database. Then you would have the option of creating a resource graph >>> that conforms to CIDOC-CRM, or LIDO, or non at all. >>> >>> Hope that makes sense! What's nice is that if one organization >>> endeavors to load a brand new ontology into version 4, they should be able >>> to easily translate their work into something that anyone can replicate. >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Edmund Lee < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello George, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the post. I am sure there are others here better placed to >>>> answer this from a technical standpoint, but to help get this question >>>> answered, could you say a bit more about what support for these standards >>>> would allow you and other potential Arches users to do? >>>> >>>> All good wishes >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 3:21:17 AM UTC+1, George Simeonov >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings to all! >>>>> >>>>> Please tell me, >>>>> Do you know if there are any plans in near future to have support in >>>>> Arches for the following specifications? >>>>> >>>>> * LIDO - Lightweight Information Describing Objects - ATHENA >>>>> <http://www.athenaeurope.org/getFile.php?id=535> >>>>> * OAI-PMH Protocol >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> -- To post, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe, >>>> send email to [email protected]. For more information, >>>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/forum/archesproject?hl=en >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Arches Project" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- -- To post, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected]. For more information, visit https://groups.google.com/d/forum/archesproject?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Arches Project" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
