That is almost 2 years ago? How time flies!
Also: congrats on the new website, it looks great.

Some answers:

   - Would you advise that I become very familiar with the CDOC CRM 
   documentation before I get started? When designing new Resource Types in 
   Arches you will definitely need some basic knowledge, as you will need to 
   choose a CIDOC type for every field/property that you create. How far you 
   want to go depends on your needs regarding CIDOC. If you need to publish 
   academic papers about how you implemented your database and abided by 
   ontological rules, then you certainly need in-depth knowledge of CIDOC. In 
   case of GDH, it is more important to them to release as much data to the 
   public as possible, than to be very precise and academic about the data, 
   especially CIDOC-wise. I encountered many scenarios where I couldn't find a 
   fitting CIDOC type for a property I was creating. Initially I kept dwelling 
   on this and it caused major slowdowns and headaches. Now in such a 
   situation I generally choose a CIDOC type that 'sounds about right' and 
   move on (don't tell the purists!). In any case the Arches community, as 
   well as the core team, have CIDOC specialists that can help you.
   - Because we are based at a university, am I correct that it would make 
   more sense to install Arches on a server? Arches is an 'enterprise 
   level' application, which means your production ('live'/public) 
   installation will be on a server, running behind a web server. For local 
   development and testing: If you want to develop your Arches implementation 
   (especially your Resource Types) with multiple people in parallel, then 
   installing Arches on a (non-public development)server is the way to go. If 
   it is just you, then having a local installation on your laptop can be 
   sufficient for developing. However, even though I am currently the only 
   developer for GDH, I still like to have a test environment on a server 
   outside my laptop, preferably one that is identical to my production 
   server. In any case, make sure that your data/work is always backed up 
   somehow (I commit everything I do to Github, including my Resource Type 
   exports (in .json format)). 
   - Our database is in the process of being migrated to the university's 
   repository, and I want to make any data of ours on Arches link back to 
   those DOIs, so that our website+Arches and our data in the university's 
   repository all speak to each other. Does that make sense? This makes 
   sense. You can add a free-text field to any Resource Type for copy/pasting 
   in the DOIs. Some example Resource Types that ship with Arches already have 
   something similar (I think it's under 'External References' or similar).
   - We want to make our raw data as well as our visualisations (3D models 
   etc) available through Arches. We would need some kind of access control, 
   so that viewing models is open to all guests, but access to our raw data 
   would need registration. This is possible. You can define access on the 
   level of the Resource Type, so for your 3D Model resource type you can set 
   it to public, while for your Raw Data resource type you limit access to a 
   specific user group (so Raw Data resources will not even show up in search 
   results for guest users). Or you could do this only on certain properties 
   of a Resource Type (on the 'Cards' level). To do this: Go to Arches 
   Designer -> Click a Resource Type -> Click the third tab: 'Permissions' -> 
   Click 'Select all' to select all fields ('Cards') of the Resource Type (or 
   select only those you want to limit) -> Select a user group from the 
   dropdown (use 'anonymous' for public) -> Check the appropriate permissions 
   -> Click 'Apply Permissions'
   - Your description of how you envision our data (from your conversation 
   with Roshan in 2017) is really useful. Would you change anything about it 
   with regard to Zamani’s specific data and updates to Arches? I had 
   something like this in mind, but am very open to any suggestions and 
   insight: I use the setup as described in that post, except I changed a 
   few words and expanded some Types. 
      - Instead of 'Activity Resource' I called it '*Project* 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/Project.json>
      '. 
      - Instead of 'File (set)' I now use separate Resource Types for 
      different file types/formats we have, e.g. '*3D HOP Model 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/3D%20HOP%20Model.json>*',
 
      '*Image 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/Image.json>*'
 
      and '*Video 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/Video.json>*
      '. 
      - For raw data I used '*3D Data As Captured 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/3D%20Data%20As%20Captured.json>*'
 
      (Early stages, still working on that).
      - Instead of 'Architectural Resource' I used '*Heritage Site 
      
<https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/db/graphs/resource_models/Heritage%20Site.json>*'
 
      (more or less comprises everything that is not a 'Heritage Object' 
      ('portable' stuff)). 
   
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Vincent

On Thursday, 12 September 2019 12:11:30 UTC+2, Sarah Schäfer wrote:
>
> Wonderful to get such a detailed response from you, thanks Vincent. 
>
> I've actually realised that my colleague Roshan and you were in touch 
> about this a few years ago - here's 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!starred/archesproject/v02grD04ofc>the 
> link to the conversation. I've now joined the team at the Zamani Project 
> <http://www.zamaniproject.org> and really want to get us going with 
> Arches. I recently attended the Digital Humanities conference in the 
> Netherlands, and it seems like Arches is really gaining ground. 
>
> I've been educating myself with the documentation and am very inspired by 
> your implementation with Global Digital Heritage! 
>
> I have a few questions that I hope you can help with: 
>
>    - Would you advise that I become very familiar with the CDOC CRM 
>    documentation before I get started? 
>    - Because we are based at a university, am I correct that it would 
>    make more sense to install Arches on a server? 
>    - Our database is in the process of being migrated to the university's 
>    repository, and I want to make any data of ours on Arches link back to 
>    those DOIs, so that our website+Arches and our data in the university's 
>    repository all speak to each other. Does that make sense? 
>    - We want to make our raw data as well as our visualisations (3D 
>    models etc) available through Arches. We would need some kind of access 
>    control, so that viewing models is open to all guests, but access to our 
>    raw data would need registration. 
>    - Your description of how you envision our data (from your 
>    conversation with Roshan in 2017) is really useful. Would you change 
>    anything about it with regard to Zamani’s specific data and updates to 
>    Arches? I had something like this in mind, but am very open to any 
>    suggestions and insight:
>
> *Activity Resource* 
> Describes the project in general. 
> *i.e. Spatial documentation of temples and pagodas in Bagan, Myanmar*
> *Documentation/Digitization Event* 
> More detailed, short-term documentation of the 'how' and 'when' of the 
> sessions. There could be several events here for the same activity 
> resource. Can be as descriptive as needed about equipment, conditions and 
> settings.  
> *i.e. 20-30 January 2016 - terrestrial laser scans and drone footage of 
> Temple 1 and Pagoda 2; F+H scanner model XXX with settings XXX. Team 
> members A, B, and C were present. *
> *1-5 June 2019 - more documentation events*.    
> *Resource* 
> Documents heritage sites, structures, buildings, etc. There could be many 
> resources here.
> *i.e. Temple 1; Temple 2; Temple 99; Pagoda 1; Pagoda 2; Pagoda 99 etc.   *
> *File set/Raw data* 
> Datasets from acquired documentation. This lives in the university’s 
> repository, and can be accessed with a DOI.  
> *i.e. http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/a0028240 
> <http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/a0028240>*
> *File (set)* 
> The actual 3D model gets uploaded to Arches.
>
> Best, 
> Sarah
>
> On Monday, 9 September 2019 13:42:57 UTC+2, Vincent Meijer wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sarah and welcome,
>>
>> With regards to using 3D viewers in Arches, have a look at my 
>> implementation here:
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d
>>
>> Perhaps this is a bit too 'head-first' (take your time to familiarize 
>> yourself with Arches), but if you want to implement 3D HOP into Arches, you 
>> can copy/paste the following code into your own implementation:
>>
>> *Javascript:*
>>
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/tree/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/media/js/reports/three-d-hop
>>
>> *Html templates:*
>>
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/templates/views/report-templates/three-d-hop.htm
>>
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/tree/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/templates/views/components/three-d-hop
>>
>> *Css:*
>>
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/media/css/three-d-hop.css
>>
>> *Migration to register the 3D HOP report template:*
>>
>> https://github.com/globaldigitalheritage/arches-3d/blob/master/arches_3d/arches_3d/migrations/002_three_d_hop_report_template.py
>>
>>
>> Look in the same folders for implementations of e.g. Sketchfab and Potree 
>> as well.
>>
>> See it in action *here* 
>> <https://globaldigitalheritage.org/search?typeFilter=%5B%7B%22graphid%22%3A%2236bcaff4-b82f-11e8-8598-0242ac120004%22%2C%22name%22%3A%223D%20HOP%20Model%22%2C%22inverted%22%3Afalse%7D%5D&no_filters=false&page=1>
>> .
>>
>> Let me know if I can help with anything!
>>
>> All best,
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 5 September 2019 15:53:42 UTC+2, Sarah Schäfer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, 
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of educating myself as much as I can about Arches 
>>> before I begin implementation and am finding this forum so valuable - thank 
>>> you!
>>>
>>> I’ve recently joined a small digital cultural heritage organisation 
>>> based at a university in Cape Town, South Africa, and am working with them 
>>> in my capacity as digital curator. The team does digital spatial 
>>> documentation of cultural heritage sites, and has an incredible archive of 
>>> documentation from the past 15 years. As a team, we are really excited 
>>> about the possibilities of using Arches, especially because of the GIS 
>>> functionality and viewers like 3D HOP and Sketchfab. The datasets that we 
>>> have are heterogenous, and our metadata is not where it should be. 
>>>
>>> I’ll be overseeing the implementation, and although I have a good 
>>> knowledge of and experience in digital cultural heritage and some very 
>>> basic developing in my background, it is quite an intimidating task! I’d 
>>> love to know if there is a resource (or some kind of support group :-/) 
>>> available for Arches newbies like me?
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>

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