Yes, any vncviewer should work - realvnc, tightvnc, tigervnc, chicken of the 
vnc (mac), 
and there are others. All of them should be free. To test it out, please try to 
connect
to the login screen:

vncviewer alamo.uthscsa.edu:1
password: SciGap

-b.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 07:16:12PM +0000, Miller, Mark wrote:
> Borries,
> 
> I haven't used this vnc thing before.
> Do I just need the free client mentioned on this page?
> http://www.realvnc.com/products/vnc/
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Borries Demeler [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 11:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Experiment Summary retrieval
> 
> Marlon,
> would it be possible to put me on the agenda for about 30 mins. during our 
> next telecon?
> Everyone should have a vnc viewer client on their computer to follow along.
> 
> Thanks, -borries
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 06:42:46PM +0000, Miller, Mark wrote:
> > I think that would be useful, personally. 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Borries Demeler [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 11:37 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Experiment Summary retrieval
> > 
> > 
> > Mark, Lahiru and others:
> > 
> > If you guys aren't averse to yet another online conference, I would be 
> > happy to give an on-screen demo of our system. It is a bit difficult to 
> > explain per email how this rather complicated system is organized, but it 
> > may be worthwhile to get some insights of one possible solution to how this 
> > can be handled. I wouldn't say that the gateway is completely separated 
> > from the task of processing output data, but the task is abstracted to a 
> > very basic and uncomplicated level, and then the more complex issues are 
> > handled in a custom fashion by our software. This way we can on the one 
> > hand have robust communications and on the other fine-grained and 
> > customized data handling for the specific needs of the user. I would 
> > probably need about 20-30 mins of your time. Perhaps during the next SciGap 
> > meeting?
> > It would be best if everyone had a vnc viewer on their desktop to follow 
> > along.
> > 
> > -Borries
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 04:49:15PM +0000, Miller, Mark wrote:
> > > Very interesting Borries. So if I read that right, delivery of results 
> > > for your Gateway takes place by a completely separate system.
> > > 
> > > I think the RESTful access we provide will be similar in some ways.  We 
> > > will be passing results directly to the user's application, which will be 
> > > in effect like the UltraScan package, I think. In that case, what the 
> > > user extracts from the data will be up to their application. Of course we 
> > > will track the relevant usage parameters just as we do currently on our 
> > > side.
> > > 
> > > The access to intermediate results for ongoing jobs is also critically 
> > > important for us as well, and very much outside of the main Gateway 
> > > software. But we don't currently support access to status of a list of 
> > > running jobs. Although the idea of being able to provide users with a 
> > > window into the status of all their tasks is certainly a nice feature, 
> > > and we would likely consume it and present it to users if it was easy to 
> > > access.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Borries Demeler [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:12 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Experiment Summary retrieval
> > > 
> > > I am not sure if this relates at all to the getAllExperiments() question, 
> > > but I thought it may help to see how we deal with retrieving expt. data 
> > > from the gateway in UltraScan.
> > > 
> > > In the case of UltraScan we have the HPC output very much separated from 
> > > the information of the results that are useful to the user. All data are 
> > > getting tar.gzipped into a single archive which is transported back out 
> > > and automatically parsed into a relational database that is part of the 
> > > UltraScan software, and not a function of the gateway. The user will then 
> > > access the database with secondary software and create a type of 
> > > meta-analysis and visualization of the results that ultimately are then 
> > > useful to the user. Having said this, while data are being calculated on 
> > > the HPC resource, the user can monitor the process of the calculation by 
> > > reviewing a queue viewer that shows all pending and active jobs and their 
> > > actual state. This state include a lot of information keeping the user 
> > > apprised of the state. This information is continually being sent via UDP 
> > > from the HPC resource and monitored by a daemon on our backend LIMS 
> > > server, again, this is semi-independent from the gateway software. This 
> > > may be very specialized for our use case, but it is one example of how 
> > > the problem can be solved.
> > > 
> > > -borries
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:37:02AM -0400, Saminda Wijeratne wrote:
> > > > Thanks for identifying the problem Sachith. To be precise 
> > > > potentially there are many subset variations of interested fields 
> > > > in the Experiment Data which different gateways will be interested 
> > > > in the same usecase or different usecase. We cannot scale by 
> > > > providing different functions for each of these scenarios.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Sachith Withana 
> > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Almost all gateways have a requirement of retrieving the 
> > > > > experiment summaries of all the experiments . The fields that 
> > > > > are required differ based on the gateway.
> > > > >
> > > > > For Example:
> > > > > CIPRES requires : Experiment name and status Some gateways 
> > > > > requires the Experiment name with the inputs only.
> > > > >
> > > > > But right now the getAllExperiments() method returns the list of 
> > > > > all the Experiments with all the experiment related attributes 
> > > > > filled ( the whole Experiment Model).
> > > > >
> > > > > It's costly to get the whole Experiment objects from the API 
> > > > > rather than getting the required few attributes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions on how we could achieve this?
> > > > >
> > > > > One suggestion would be to have a getAllExperiments method with 
> > > > > the parameters as a list of required fields of the Experiments 
> > > > > and return only those fields.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Sachith Withana
> > > > >

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