On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Lahiru Gunathilake <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Marlon Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > When is a resource bound to an experiment?  In at least some cases,
> > max_walltime, cpu count, etc can be resource specific for a given
> > application.
> >
> During launching in orchestrator. Currently these are read from application
> description and its resource specific. Each resource has its own
> application descriptor.
>

Is that so ?
i.e. user specifies the resource when launching the application ? not when
creating the experiment ?

Thanks
Amila


>
> Lahiru
>
>
> >
> > Marlon
> >
> > On 4/15/14 2:18 PM, Amila Jayasekara wrote:
> > > Hi Lahiru,
> > >
> > > Some thoughts below;
> > >
> > > Regarding 1
> > >
> > > Parameters such as max_wall time, cpu count, queue name etc ... should
> be
> > > validate at the experiment creating stage.
> > > Reason : We create experiment in one call and we launch the experiment
> > in a
> > > different call. So if user specifies an invalid or out of range value
> for
> > > walltime or cpucount, he/she will get an error at experiment launch
> time,
> > > not during creation time. Thats going to be tedious to user. Therefore
> we
> > > need to validate those job specific parameters during experiment
> > creation.
> > > How to implement : Use gsissh to login to resource and execute a
> command
> > > similar to "qstat -q <queue name>" and parse the output. It gives most
> of
> > > above parameters. Also there are other commands you could use to get
> such
> > > information (But commands will depend on the job scheduler you are
> > using).
> > >
> > > Regarding 3
> > >
> > > It doesnt sound correct to copy what ever the status when cloning the
> > > experiment. This could break some of the logic based on experiment
> status
> > > and may give wrong information to user.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Amila
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Lahiru Gunathilake <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Eroma,
> > >>
> > >> Please find my answers below.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Eroma Abeysinghe <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> I was preparing test cases for Airavata API and few
> > >>> questions/clarifications;
> > >>> 1. Do we have a max walltime and CPU count?
> > >>>
> > >> Not sure what did you mean by do we have. Yes we have those two
> > properties
> > >> and its used in most of the unit tests and createLaunchExperiment
> > sample.
> > >> You can have a look at the code. Currently its mostly a static
> > >> configuration where gateway administrator set when he/she save the
> > >> application context but these properties can be configured for each
> > request
> > >> (job) rather using the static configuration.
> > >>
> > >>> 2. We don't define ppn for resource node at creation of experiments.
> Is
> > >> it
> > >>> set internally for each experiment?
> > >>>
> > >> Yes but we set this in application Descriptor currently and its been
> > read
> > >> in gfac, but we can set in Experiment. To clarify this I have answered
> > your
> > >> last question and please refer that.
> > >>
> > >>> 3. When we clone an experiment what is the status that the new cloned
> > >>> experiment get saved? Is it CREATED ?
> > >>>
> > >> We don't save specific state, we simply clone the experiment with a
> new
> > >> experiment ID, whatever the status get copied.
> > >>
> > >>> 4. Do we have  a defined mapping between experiment status and task
> > >> status?
> > >> Currently they are independent statuses. if you can have a look
> > >> experimentModel.thrift you can see that. but I think we can have some
> > >> constraint and keep a mapping to avoid conflicting states between
> > >> experiments, tasks and Jobs. Currently we don't have any rules defined
> > >> between these statuses.
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Thank You,
> > >>> Best Regards,
> > >>> Eroma
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> System Analyst Programmer
> > >> PTI Lab
> > >> Indiana University
> > >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> PTI Lab
> Indiana University
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