GV:  see below

> On Jul 8, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Steven Githens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gregg,
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Gregg C Vanderheiden <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> that is what I suspected
>> 
>> that will give Sergio more time to give notice as well. 
>> 
>> If I don’t hear anything else by tomorrow - I will proceed with this plan 
>> and start them both on the 23rd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ALSO - if anyone sees any holes (including you Tyler) in what Tyler and I 
>> came up with - and I posted wednesday - as to a plan for going forward with 
>> DevOp work and deployment - please send tomorrow (Friday). 
>> 
>> If I don’t hear anything to the contrary I will move the DevOp & Deployment 
>> plan I sent out Wednesday from idea to plan over the weekend as well.
> 
> For this, are you referring to the plan that was sent to the UX list last 
> week? [1]
> 
> I was quite worried about this until I got to the last bullet point that said 
> it wasn't for NOVA.

GV:  Yeah. This won’t do it all for NOVA.  I should have mentioned that earlier 
in the plan probably.

>  My question is, who is this scenerio for?  Internal development and testing? 
>  Demoing? An AJC? A public library?

GV:   It is for the AJC’s and the public library. (Demonstrations don’t need 
individual accounts).
> 
> If it is for internal testing and demoing it seems fine, but if it's for any 
> sort of external use, I think it's going to require quite a lot of extra 
> logistics such as:
> - How are these unique usernames and passwords being handed out?
GV:   this is being written up for review and  Sign off. But basically we 
provide the user with a unique name, probably something like   User22.   And an 
easy to type password like  “Orange-chair55” 
> - How they being generated so people can actually type them? Random 
> dictionary concatenation so you get usernames and passwords like 
> "strawberry-asphalt-generation" or "incredible-discernment-flower". [2]
GV:  yes
> - Since there are no identifiers, there is really no way we could reset 
> somebodies password if they lost it, they'd have to start from scratch.
GV:  we are also asking for their email - but that information is not stored on 
our servers - so our servers do not need to be secure. 
>  I'm not sure how the offline email strategy below would actually work to 
> give someone support if they lost their information.  Are the technical 
> details written up for that somewhere?
GV:  This is being documented.   But yes - if we lose the key sheet we will 
lose access to their account.  So we will have offline backup.    Also, all 
that is being saved at this point is a small number of settings.  So even if 
they did lose their PW and we did lose their name -  it would take them a 
minute or two to set it back up.  

As soon as the secure server is set up - we will send them a note to change 
their password - and begin using their email (or the user22 if they like) to 
sign in.  
> 
> I have done some work for authenticating cloudsafe usernames and password 
> with the Phase II work of the PPT and as part of the preferences server, but 
> this approach will still need to be propagated to some other parts of the 
> framework, so we should plan that out carefully and inform the architecture 
> team about it as soon as possible.
GV:  Agree
actually I think the plan is for the PPT to only be available after you sign in 
to the Account/CloudSafe — so the login should transfer from the PPT to the 
account signin.  But check with Bern on the latest plan. this part is not 
finalized or signed off on yet. 

>  While there are some concerns to work out, I think it would be helpful  in 
> that it would force us to finish and test our cloudsafe login and management 
> capabilities, which would actually get us close to being a project that you 
> could just clone from github, fire up and run some type of reasonable 
> demo/impl of.

Best
gregg

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> [1]  
> We already have a working preference server up on Amazon (AWS) that should be 
> able to handle traffic at the level we would see in Aug- Sept
> It is not fully secured - and we will not be securing it further (since that 
> would majorly distract from the move to the Secure Google implementation
> To avoid the security issues - we provide users with unique   SignInNames and 
>  Passwords of our own creation
> this avoids having any PII like email addresses   — and passwords that might 
> be used by them elsewhere
> since all we have after that are settings for some already installed apps - 
> we won’t have any information that rises to PII that requires more security 
> than we have now on AWS
> we can store a key to the SignInNames that links them to email addresses for 
> support and lost keys — but that key will not be online anywhere.  
> This will allow us to implement both the QSS and the Save functions — while 
> we await the secure Google that we will need for NOVA
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks much
>> 
>> Gregg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Tyler Roscoe <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The plan was for them to start at the same time to optimize onboarding, so 
>>> I guess they should both start on the 23rd.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Gregg Vanderheiden GPII <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> One can start next week.   Sergio
>>> One can start on 23rd when his current contract runs out   Stepan
>>> 
>>> Let me know when we should start each of them so that we can write up their 
>>> contracts.
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> Gregg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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