Hi Azeez,

In your solution, how would a specific member be joining a group, that is
how will he part of a specific cluster domain, and then basically, how will
he be receiving messages destined for him, either direct peer-to-peer ones
or broadcast messages.

Cheers,
Anjana.


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Manoj Kumara <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Azeez,
>>
>> +1 for the approach.
>>
>> As we discussed the concept of Group will be useful during
>> the implementation of 'Operations Center'. Based on current requirements
>> what we need is to discover the members of the group and to send cluster
>> messages to selected set of members. I think it will be possible with the
>> requirements given by Anjana.
>>
>
> In the case of Operations Center, it is not part of any cluster & sits
> outside. So the group in OC will be separate from the clustering API.
> Actually, OC will not be using the clustering API, but the manager nodes in
> each cluster will be using this API.
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Manoj
>>
>> Best Regards..
>>
>>
>> Manoj Kumara
>> Software Engineer
>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Azeez,
>>>
>>> We basically need a concept of a Group, where we can discover members of
>>> that specific group, send messages between peers, send broadcast messages
>>> to all the members, and also get group member notifications, such as a
>>> member arriving to a group, and a member leaving.
>>>
>>> A single server should be able to join multiple Groups basically, with a
>>> given name, I guess this is the same concept of domains we have in the
>>> current clustering API. This is required when a single server can act
>>> multiple roles, so a server can join the groups it require.
>>>
>>> Also another requirement that is needed is, we need to be notified when
>>> a specific group acquires a specific number of group members. This can be
>>> either implemented using a blocking method (with a timeout possibly) which
>>> waits for a specific number of members to arrive, or by registering a
>>> callback. This type of functionality is required for a scenario like, when
>>> scheduling tasks, we need a specific number of servers to be startup up, to
>>> spread the tasks throughout the cluster, without giving all the tasks to
>>> the 1'st server that starts up, I'm sure, this requirement would arise for
>>> other components also.
>>>
>>> Please check for the Group API ([1],[2] I've created for the
>>> coordination component to get the above functionality (ignore the
>>> "clearGroupMessages" method there). There, in [2], for "onPeerMessage", I
>>> guess it's useful for us to get the member id who would have sent the
>>> message. Same for "onGroupMessage", and also, there we could possibly
>>> return a result from that node, and give a accumulated result to the
>>> sender, which I guess we already do in the current clustering API.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/carbon/platform/branches/4.0.0/components/coordination/org.wso2.carbon.coordination.core/4.0.5/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/coordination/core/sync/Group.java
>>> [2]
>>> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/carbon/platform/branches/4.0.0/components/coordination/org.wso2.carbon.coordination.core/4.0.5/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/coordination/core/sync/GroupEventListener.java
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anjana.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>> Please let me know through this mail thread if you require any new
>>>> clustering APIs. It would be good if you could give the required
>>>> method signature or describe the scenarios you need to be covered.
>>>>
>>>> Azeez
>>>>
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>>
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