On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne <[email protected]>wrote:

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> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Asanka Dissanayake <[email protected]>wrote:
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>> Hi Sameera,
>> We (me,sumedha,manisha,dimuthu) had an offline chat very similar to
>> this.yes, this is an option. We can start implementing this after getting
>> this thing confirmed.
>> @ Dimuthu. WDYT ?
>>
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> +1 for not pushing to live until the APIM is sorted out.
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> +1 for implementing a single user to be used for APIM.
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P.S. lets make this user transparent in the appmgt ui. Of course we cannot
help it but we'll see him in carbon management console.

thanks,
dimuthu


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> thanks,
> dimuthu
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>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sameera Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If you introduce a new role, that has the same permissions as App Owner;
>>> you could keep everything as is.
>>> For e.g. in Google Docs, you have one owner, multiple editors.
>>> Owner needn't have any special permission that other "editors" have.
>>> He'll just be the person who initially created the app.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason, this approach will not work?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Asanka Dissanayake <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> User invitation and update for application owner implemented and tested
>>>> in 105 machine. But there are several problems arises.
>>>> 1-API manager subscriptions are only allowed for the user that created
>>>> the app
>>>> 2-and many other places that checks whether the logged in user is app
>>>> owner,
>>>> 3-even in block level method such as getAppOwner needs to be changed
>>>>
>>>> So IMHO , we should not push this to live until we get these solved.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Shiroshica Kulatilake <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> The requirement of Samisa is also part of the aPaaS story as Sameera
>>>>> pointed out very correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we need to think in that line as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Will we be doing a similar QSP to introduce aPaaS inhouse ? if not
>>>>> will we be migrating this into aPaaS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Shiro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Manisha Gayathri 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Samisa,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. As Asanka mentioned, we will have considered this aspect for the
>>>>>> internal QSP.
>>>>>> We have removed having multiple app owner concept in this 1.0.0
>>>>>> release, basically because of the fact that if all the app owners were
>>>>>> deleted, then the app is going to be unusable. For that we will disable 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> App Owner Deletion permission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the end of the QSP, the AF will be able to maintain multiple app
>>>>>> owners per app and we will be pushing these features to the AF Live as
>>>>>> well. To keep track of this, have created the JIRA [1] and [2].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]. https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPFAC-1419
>>>>>> [2]. https://wso2.org/jira/browse/APPFAC-1420
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Manisha
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition to having multiple users in app owner role, there is
>>>>>>> more into this, in terms of perspectives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets get the feature in first, and we can dig more into pespectives
>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the subject of patching, I think we agreed that we will keep
>>>>>>> updating the live one on a regular basis, meaning, we will do builds 
>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>> thus not just the support patches, rather "build" number increment 
>>>>>>> releases
>>>>>>> of AF) on a weekly basis on AF. So I hope these features will be 
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> "tomorrow" rather than in next October.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Shiroshica Kulatilake <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this change (and others that we may discover through doing the
>>>>>>>> QSP) are to be for AF in general then shouldn't we also have these as 
>>>>>>>> Jiras
>>>>>>>> which get committed into the support branch as well ? Then such 
>>>>>>>> additions
>>>>>>>> will go through the normal process of adding or improving the product -
>>>>>>>> e.g. review, test etc..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Shiro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Asanka Dissanayake <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi samisa,
>>>>>>>>> It is ok to have multiple app owners for an app. But at the mean
>>>>>>>>> time it is restricted by UI. Sumedha and tried it using direct back 
>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>> call yesterday. It worked. There are slight changes in the front end 
>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> done.  Once they are done we are good to go.
>>>>>>>>>  On 18 Jul 2013 07:23, "Samisa Abeysinghe" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  The more I try to use AF, the more I feel the need for $subject
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For e.g. we are developing a series of apps for internal WSO2
>>>>>>>>>> use. In here, Maheshica and myself act as the stakeholders of the 
>>>>>>>>>> apps.
>>>>>>>>>> When I map the use case to AF, not being able to be owners of the
>>>>>>>>>> same app as stakeholders is a major blocker.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here, app owner is a role, and there could be multiple users who
>>>>>>>>>> play the role.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>>>>>> VP Engineering
>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
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>>>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>>> VP Engineering
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>>>>>> Software Engineer, Solutions TG
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