Hi,

Is there no valid usecase for users wanting do a 'temporal search' as was
in the unintended discussion? ... :-)

I mean would they want to search for a particular event that occurred after
matching of another event? Maybe it is not a valid usecase in the context
of BAM. Just voicing my thoughts here... :-)

Thanks,
Lasantha

On 26 July 2013 05:25, Hasitha Hiranya <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 for new event search UI. It brings flexibility.
>  Is this a "read-only" view? What if somebody want to do a query and
> remove all the data found? Is it not valid a use-case?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Inosh Goonewardena <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I have attached modified mock screens. Appreciate your feedbacks
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> ah sorry :)
>>>
>>> --Srinath
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Srinath,
>>>>
>>>> I think we got the term "ordering" confused here :) .. I wasn't really
>>>> talking about temporal ordering of the events there (I think we can ignore
>>>> that for the initial version of search) .. I was mentioning how we properly
>>>> give the ordering of the conditions there .. as in the "and", "or"
>>>> operators .. like we can say "A and B or C", where by usual operator
>>>> precedence it'll be (A and B) or C .. but we may also want to give
>>>> something like "A and (B or C)" .. I was just mentioning the syntax we will
>>>> need to show the mentioned behavior, we can't do it in a simple way in an
>>>> UI.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anjana.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Anjana,
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, stream1.prop1="1" -> stream2.prop1="1" to show the
>>>>> ordering (note the arrow).
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, this is the CEP event pattern format (
>>>>> http://wso2.com/library/articles/2013/06/understanding-siddhi-powers-wso2-cep-2x,
>>>>> see sequence).
>>>>> IMHO, if we need to show temporal ordering, CEP has the format. May
>>>>> be there is room to improve, but in which case we fix both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sinthuja, the model we give to end users is EventStreams. IMHO, it is
>>>>> best to let him search thinking event steam instead of row Cassandra.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Anjana Fernando <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the search, the part where we give the conditions, this approach
>>>>>> doesn't handle the ordering of the conditions, like (stream1.prop1="1" or
>>>>>> stream2.prop2="2") and (stream1.prop3="3") kind of a scenario. So how 
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> having a simple search query format instead and just give a search text
>>>>>> field to do the queries? .. I guess we can use a format like the one I 
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> mentioned for the earlier example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Anjana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) For Event search, user need to pick an stream, then he can
>>>>>>> search. Given we have activity search I think that would do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) For activity search, this only handle a small subset. One
>>>>>>> activity might have events from many streams. We define property search 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> match if at least one event in an activity matches the given condition
>>>>>>> (e.g. property). If user need more complex ones (e.g. temporal 
>>>>>>> conditions)
>>>>>>> they should define and KPI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Inosh Goonewardena 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We had a few discussion sessions with Srinath about BAM events
>>>>>>>> search and activity search.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Herewith I have attached mock up screens on how the search UIs will
>>>>>>>> be like. Any feedback is appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Inosh Goonewardena
>>>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead- WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +94779966317
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>    http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>>>>>>>    http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Anjana Fernando*
>>>>>> Technical Lead
>>>>>>  WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com
>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ============================
>>>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>>>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
>>>>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>>>   Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>>>>>    Phone: 0772360902
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Anjana Fernando*
>>>> Technical Lead
>>>> WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com
>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ============================
>>> Srinath Perera, Ph.D.
>>>   Director, Research, WSO2 Inc.
>>>   Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
>>>   Member, Apache Software Foundation
>>>   Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
>>>   Blog: http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/
>>>   Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>>>    Phone: 0772360902
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Inosh Goonewardena
>> Associate Technical Lead- WSO2 Inc.
>> Mobile: +94779966317
>>
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