Pls see the thread  "WSO2 CEP/Siddhi Storm Integration" in the same list. I
have done initial Siddhi Bolt for Storm. Any feedback is welcome.

--Srinath


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Jaime,
>
> In my opinion, both Kafka and Strom plugins are useful as these two shoot
> for different usecases.
>
> CEP generally goes for very high throughput (> 100K events/sec) scenarios,
> where goal is keeping up. For example, they would not do things like
> transactions. Kafka support for WSO2 CEP/Siddhi would play in to this.
>
> One the other hand, stream processing goes bit slowly, but
> provide guarantees like no event was lost. (e.g. it can process batch of
> events as a transaction). Storm plugin will play into this.
>
> --Srinath
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jaime Nebrera <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi both,
>>
>> Sorry my wording was not the best (you know I'm Spaniards ;) Let me put
>> it other way
>>
>> Yes, I'm aware WSO2 includes features you can call CEP due to Shiddi
>> while the others don't
>>
>> As you say they are more stream processing engines, but at least to the
>> point I'm aware they are quite "raw" and need quite a lot of coding to get
>> results
>>
>> On the other hand, they are inherently distributed and designed to scale.
>> When you go to Big Data events or webinars or read papers most of the time
>> you see them named but very few name WSO2
>>
>> Just as an example, SAMOA project for distributed stream data mining has
>> a plugin for Storm and another for S4 and they are working for Samza, but
>> WSO2? They don't even list it
>>
>> As for our case, one of our students has added Apache Kafka compatibility
>> to WSO2, but we are doubting if it would be better to add Shiddi to Storm
>> instead
>>
>> That's why I'm asking
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jaime Nebrera - ENEO Tecnología
>> Sent with mobile, sorry for typos
>> El 22/11/2013 03:32, "Srinath Perera" <[email protected]> escribió:
>>
>> Hi Jaime,
>>>
>>> Strom is not strictly a CEP engine, rather a stream processing engine.
>>>  See
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.tibco.com/blog/2009/08/21/cep-versus-esp-an-essay-or-maybe-a-rant/and
>>>   *The
>>> “inventor” of the term CEP, David Luckham, provides an excellent
>>> differentiation on his web site
>>> <http://complexevents.com/2006/08/01/what%E2%80%99s-the-difference-between-esp-and-cep/>.*
>>>
>>> *Of course there is overlap, and for some usecases, you can use either.
>>> For some CEP is better and vice versa. *
>>>
>>> * In general, with stream processing, you are free to write your
>>> operators vs. CEP provides a pretty powerful language. CEP is very powerful
>>> on temporal operators like windows, event patters (event A followed by
>>> three events of B) kind of scenarios. *
>>>
>>> *--Srinath*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:32 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not think we have a one to one comparison. But WSO2's key strength
>>>> is ability to scale, among other things such as being part of a
>>>> comprehensive platform of middleware.
>>>>
>>>> See:
>>>> http://srinathsview.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-to-scale-complex-event-processing.html
>>>>  on
>>>> scale.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Samisa...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>
>>>> Vice President Training
>>>>
>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Jaime Nebrera <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> When searching in the net, most references point to either Storm or S4
>>>>> and now Samza for CEP.
>>>>>
>>>>> May I ask if somebody has done any comparison / benchmark of WSO2 vs
>>>>> them?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaime Nebrera - ENEO Tecnología
>>>>> Sent with mobile, sorry for typos
>>>>>
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  Visiting Faculty, University of Moratuwa
  Member, Apache Software Foundation
  Research Scientist, Lanka Software Foundation
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