Yes, we had a discussion about this, and it seemed to be quite cumbersome
to preserve the SVN history. So we opted to start from scratch.

Azeez


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Nirmal Fernando <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Shankar,
>
> While we were moving Stratos to Apache, Apache infra guys suggested some
> tools to get SVN commit history to Git [1].
>
> [1]
> http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/hosted_git_to_svn.txt
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Selvaratnam Uthaiyashankar <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> One issue is, we will loose commit information (svn blame) when we move
>> to github. Any way to import the code with those information?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shankar
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> As a PoC I just completed the carbon-component-governance. Please find
>>> it in [1] and let me know your comments and suggestions. Please keep in
>>> mind that this is not in a buildable state since other components need to
>>> build before this.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Eranda
>>>
>>> [1] https://github.com/wso2/carbon-component-governance
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  [Sorry for the very long mail. I want to document all that I had in
>>>> mind & the stuff we discussed. I would recommend all devs to take some time
>>>> to read this]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to summarize he discussion we had a couple of days back.
>>>>
>>>> *The Problems*
>>>> The problems we are trying to solve are as follows:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Trunk & branches structures being completely different
>>>> 2. Branches containing directories with version numbers
>>>> 3. It is impossible to move to GitHub with the current structure
>>>> because of #2
>>>> 4. It is very easy to break the build by changing already released
>>>> code. The room for human error is high.
>>>> 5. Bamboo builds are eternally broken because the build fails at some
>>>> point & Bamboo cannot continue any further
>>>> 6. When we branch, the trunk quickly becomes obsolete, and remains in
>>>> that broken state until the next major platform release.
>>>> 7. Everybody has to build all components/features, even if those are
>>>> not related to their products
>>>> 8. Fixed versions in branches instead of using SNAPSHOT versions. This
>>>> makes it impossible to upload build artifacts to Maven/Nexus repos. This
>>>> leads to #7.
>>>> 9. Impossible to integrate code quality tools such as EraInsight
>>>> because of #5
>>>>
>>>> *Proposed solution*
>>>> We have come up with the following solution after much deliberation &
>>>> thought.
>>>>
>>>> Rationale:
>>>> We started looking at other open source projects out there. We took
>>>> Axis2 as an example. Axis2 had many dependencies including Axiom,
>>>> XmlSchema, Woden, WSS4J etc. Those 3rd party dependencies were also
>>>> developed by some Axis2 contributors, but we never branched all of those
>>>> together and brought them into the same code branch. We used to start what
>>>> we used to call a release train, where the upstream code would have to be
>>>> released first before the downstream code such as Axis2 & Synapse could be
>>>> released. This way, we never had any of the problems outlined above.
>>>>
>>>> If you look at the WSO2 product releases, again, the scenario is not
>>>> that much different from the Axis2/Synapse releases. Components & features
>>>> are simply dependencies of the products. In order to get product releases
>>>> out, we first need releases of those dependencies (components/features). So
>>>> the proposal is to identify the top level components/features, and first
>>>> release that code before doing product releases. Each of those components
>>>> will have a GitHub repo. All active development will be done on the main
>>>> branch of those components, and will be branched when they are close to the
>>>> release. Instead of granting commit rights to all, we could only allow the
>>>> primary developers of those components to commit, and others can send pull
>>>> requests, which will be merged in by the primary owners after reviewing.
>>>> These component teams could even have an internal Git repo or clone, and
>>>> commit to that, run all tests, and when they are satisfied that the code is
>>>> in a good state to be merged into the main branch, they can send a pull
>>>> request & merge the changes. We would run Bamboo which would build the
>>>> components several times a day & deploy them to the Nexus repo. That way,
>>>> you would not have to build code that is not directly related to what you
>>>> are working on, which would save 100s of valuable dev hours.
>>>>
>>>> In the majority of the cases, the P2 features correspond to one or more
>>>> related components. So we would keep the feature close to the component.
>>>> There are some cases where these components & features belong in the
>>>> product itself. AppFactory components are a good example.
>>>>
>>>> Products will also have their own GitHub repos. We will have separate
>>>> GitHub repos for platform integration tests. Products such as API Manager
>>>> may opt to have the API Management feature in the product itself. We would
>>>> have a separate P2-repo GitHub repo which would build & deploy the
>>>> compatible set of P2 features.
>>>>
>>>> We will have Bamboo plans at multiple levels; components, products,
>>>> platform, p2-repo and so on.
>>>>
>>>> We will not change any package structures at this time. We would defer
>>>> that to Carbon 5 (if necessary). We will get rid of the chunk based release
>>>> model. Continuous delivery is our ultimate aim & for that to happen, we
>>>> have to release a compatible set of features. We are going to rely heavily
>>>> on automation, automated builds & deploys to Maven. The developers will do
>>>> the majority of the QA (just like the Apache Stratos team is doing now).
>>>>
>>>> We will use the Maven release plugin to create releases & upload them
>>>> to the Maven repo.
>>>>
>>>> *Implications to WSO2 code developers*
>>>> 1. Life becomes easier because you don't have to spend a lot of time
>>>> building unrelated stuff
>>>> 2. General development would happen in the main branch.
>>>> 3. Close to a release, branches would be cut.
>>>> 4. Once release branches are cut, fixes would be done in the main
>>>> branch, and pull requests would be sent to the branch & merged in. This
>>>> will be easy because we no longer have the trunk & branch structure being
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Implications to users*
>>>> Users will not see any difference in the components & features because
>>>> we are not changing packages or binary structure. In fact, we would have a
>>>> P2 repo with compatible features which all work together.
>>>>
>>>> Senaka, Isuruwan & Harshana have already started working on a PoC.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts welcome. Those who were in these discussions, please add
>>>> anything I may have missed.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Afkham Azeez*
>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
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