See below my answer :-)

On 14 Feb 2014, at 03:17, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Luca Milanesio <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> If all devs would then start forking in GitHub and opening pull requests, 
>> you'll possibly have quite an explosion of repos though: 20 repos x 150 devs 
>> = 3000 forks. This is one of the reason why popular OpenSource projects such 
>> as OpenStack and Jenkins do not use Pull Requests.
> 
> This is the Git philosophy.

Are you sure ? I guess you're confusing fork with branch ;-)


> Fork as much as you like! :)  I just looked at Jenkins project and there are 
> many forks as well as pull requests. https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins

And you should watch what Kohsuke said at the last JUC in Palo Alto (not far 
from your offices): don't do that because is unmanageable :-O

;-)

>  
>> 
>> How are you planning to cope with that problem ? Are you assessing other 
>> code reviews that does not require forking ? (I.e. Gerrit Code Review)
>> 
>> What would be approach for bad pull requests (flagged by WSO2 Users as 
>> negative review) created by WSO2 committers ? (The ones you mentioned before 
>> that have proved to adopt good code practices and thus granted that role)
>> 
>> Luca
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 Feb 2014, at 04:35, Nuwan Bandara <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Luca,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Luca Milanesio <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Would it be a public review of the changes ? Team member vs non team 
>>>> member does not seems an objective validation of the code quality.
>>>> 
>>>> Changes should be merged because they make sense and not based on the 
>>>> email domain ownership IMHO.
>>> 
>>> Ofcause that will always be the case if an internal team member produce bad 
>>> code it wont be merged. Actaully within WSO2 internal developers will not 
>>> get commitership until they prove themselves with quality code and best 
>>> practices. We regularly have code reviews, and with git migration we can 
>>> comment on the code publicly and if its good only we will merge.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> /Nuwan
>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Luca
>>>> 
>>>> On 12 Feb 2014, at 03:40, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Shevan Goonetilleke <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sagara,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The pull request sent from a non-team member will have to be merged 
>>>>>> manually by the respective team right? The automated validate and merge 
>>>>>> will be only at the company level?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any pull requests to the team repos have to be manually merged.
>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Shevan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:31 PM, Sagara Gunathunga <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please find proposed Validate & Merge architecture for platform 
>>>>>>> projects based on a POC we did during last few days. Once we 
>>>>>>> implemented, this will be a huge step to reach continuous delivery 
>>>>>>> mode.      
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <repo.png>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Example workflow is given below based on "carbon-deployment" project 
>>>>>>> own by AS team. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - In WSO2 organisation level there will be a GitHub repo[1], Jenkins 
>>>>>>> build server and Nexus server available and those are common for all 
>>>>>>> projects and own by Infra/Admin team. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - There will be a build VM given for each team and they can run their 
>>>>>>> own Jenkins server. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - There will be a "GIT Proxy" available on organisation level  Jenkins 
>>>>>>> server that can accept pull request in behalf of  organisation level 
>>>>>>> GitHub repo[1]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1.) Responsible person from AS team fork  "carbon-deployment"  project 
>>>>>>> from WSO2 repo [1] to team level repo [2] ( This is a one time task).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2.) Each team member clone team level GIT repo[2] locally. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3.) Each team member modify code and frequently commit to their local 
>>>>>>> cloned repo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4.) When a feature reach do Done-Done state team member can  push to AS 
>>>>>>> team level repo. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 5.) Team level Jenkins server automatically trigger a build based on 
>>>>>>> SCM change just happened and team can validate the change based on 
>>>>>>> build results. ( In addition to carbon-deployment job team may create 
>>>>>>> Jenkins jobs for downstream projects to validate the change further )  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 6.) When the team wish to merge above feature to organisational level 
>>>>>>> repo, a responsible person from the team can send a GIT pull request 
>>>>>>> from Team repo[2] to GIT proxy available on organisation level Jenkins. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 7.) "GIT Proxy" accept pull requests from team level repo and trigger a 
>>>>>>> Jenkins build with  the changes received from current pull request.    
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 8.) Eventually Jenkins builds all downstream projects and validate pull 
>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 9.) If any downstream projects build fail then discard the pull request 
>>>>>>> and notify authors of pull request/commit about the failure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 10.) If all downstream projects build succeed Jenkins will automatically
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>         a.) Merge pull request to organisation level  GitHub repo[1] 
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>         b.) Deploy built artefacts in to Nexus snapshot repo 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> NOTE - When it come to NON team member contribution, only change is 
>>>>>>> during the step-4 he can't push to team repo directly instead he will 
>>>>>>> send a pull request to Team level repo [1].
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Right now we are evaluating number of  solutions to implement  "GIT 
>>>>>>> Proxy" component and there is a high chance that we will end up writing 
>>>>>>> a Jenkins plugin to cater this requirement.  In future this 
>>>>>>> plug-in/solution can be used with AF to cater similar requirements.     
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [1] - https://github.com/wso2/carbon-deployment 
>>>>>>> [2] - https://github.com/wso2as-developer/carbon-deployment 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks ! 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Sagara Gunathunga
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Senior Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com
>>>>>>> V.P Apache Web Services;    http://ws.apache.org/
>>>>>>> Linkedin; http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
>>>>>>> Blog ;  http://ssagara.blogspot.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Shevan Goonetilleke
>>>>>> Director of Engineering
>>>>>> WSO2, Inc.
>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>> m: +94777340680
>>>>>> w: http://wso2.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Afkham Azeez
>>>>> Director of Architecture; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
>>>>> 
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>>> 
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