On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Nuwan Bandara <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]>wrote: > >> However that does not change the validity of Nuwan's mail .. the notes >> were not very useful at all! >> >> Folks these notes are CRUCIAL because a lot of people are not in the room >> when a given discussion occurs. The notes have to capture the spirit of the >> discussion along with sufficient detail for someone not in the room to get >> a good sense of what was discussed. Yes its not easy - neither is what we >> do. >> > > +1 > >> >> Shameera please send an updated set of notes - you were not there when >> Azeez, Sameera, Pradeep and I chatted near the fish tank .. so please send >> a better summary of what was discussed (I wasn't in the room so I don't >> know what you guys considered either). >> >> Nuwan my suggestion was to question the assumption that we MUST have an >> admin UI (and hence framework) to the extent we had in C4. >> > > Well IMO we need to have an admin UI. > In a clustered environment, how it will help? We need following functionalities: (At the moment shipped with AdminUI) (1) Deploying an artifact (Development stuff are removed from admin UI) - This is the ADS or OC (2) Seeing the statistics (Service stats, machine stats) - This is (BAM) dashboard and OC (3) User, role management - Isnt it Identity Server? (4) Registry UI - G-Reg? (5) Some tools - these should go to dev studio? For a simple deployment, Admin UI makes sense, since you don't need multiple servers to manage. However, in a normal real world scenarios, we will have above servers, which will cover all functionalities of the Admin UI? > Its not a must to bundle and ship with the server runtime, but if someone > needs the UI (s)he should be able to install the UI to the runtime. The > runtime MUST have an API (REST) which we already building, so the UI can > use this API and provide the admin functions. In that way the API will also > be properly designed / implemented and the POC for that will be the UI. > > Regards, > /Nuwan > > >> >> Sanjiva. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Afkham Azeez <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Immediately after this meeting, some of us had a casual chat with >>> Sanjiva, and we had a concern whether we need the management console at all >>> because we don't see it being used in production. I will send a separate >>> mail about that. >>> On Mar 18, 2014 2:08 AM, "Nuwan Bandara" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Shameera, >>>> >>>> This meeting minutes are not descriptive enough nor they are clear >>>> about what conclusions were made, what are the next steps are to be taken >>>> etc. Please send a descriptive version of meeting notes as C5 UI framework >>>> an important item and am sure everybody would like to contribute. We also >>>> need to look at current limitations of the Carbon UI framework and how to >>>> address them in the rewrite. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> /Nuwan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Shameera Rathnayaka <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Pubudu, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - By default disable HTTPS transport >>>>>> >>>>>> It should be HTTP, not HTTPS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Shameera. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> - OSGI services - stale reference >>>>>> - The behavior of a service that becomes unregistered is >>>>>> undefined. Such services may continue to work properly or throw >>>>>> an >>>>>> exception at their discretion. >>>>>> - Therefore to prevent potential problems, Bundles must >>>>>> listen to events generated by the Framework to clean up and >>>>>> remove stale >>>>>> references. >>>>>> - Tenant aware security manager ? >>>>>> - UI level permissions ? Authentication and Authorization >>>>>> - Read-only access for all Worker nodes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Sameera >>>>>> - Can jaggery run as a bundle in jetty ? >>>>>> - isolation of UI bundles or are we going to copy relevant >>>>>> file to specific directory ?, Ruchira suggest isolation is a good >>>>>> choice >>>>>> - How alternative servers handle UI frameworks ex : JBoss >>>>>> - Tomcat connectors ? >>>>>> - Product.xml - Model is yet to be finalized ( Jaggery >>>>>> extensions suggestion by Pubudu ) >>>>>> - Ruchira >>>>>> - current model of jaggery keeps all necessary files within a jar >>>>>> - Isolation so it will be easy to perform installation and >>>>>> uninstallation >>>>>> - component.xml can be replace with component.json - Model is >>>>>> yet be finalized >>>>>> - Rino runtime provides security for jaggery >>>>>> - Allow apps to be use REST endpoints >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> P.S Feel free to add any missing points >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Pubudu Dissanayake* >>>>>> Software Engineer >>>>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com >>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>> Mobile: 0775503304 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Software Engineer - WSO2 Inc.* >>>>> *email: shameera AT wso2.com <[email protected]> , shameera AT >>>>> apache.org <[email protected]>* >>>>> *phone: +9471 922 1454 <%2B9471%20922%201454>* >>>>> >>>>> *Linked in : * >>>>> http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/shameera-rathnayaka/1a/661/561 >>>>> *Twitter : *https://twitter.com/Shameera_R >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> *Thanks & Regards,* >>>> * Nuwan Bandara | Technical Lead - Solutions Architecture, WSO2 Inc.+1 >>>> 812.606.7390 <%2B1%20812.606.7390> | +1 650.745.4499 Ext 4210 >>>> <%2B1%20650.745.4499%20Ext%204210> | http://nuwanbando.com >>>> <http://nuwanbando.com> * <http://www.nuwanbando.com/> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Architecture mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Architecture mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >> email: [email protected]; office: (+1 650 745 4499 | +94 11 214 5345) >> x5700; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 408 466 5099; voip: +1 650 265 8311 >> blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/; twitter: @sanjiva >> Lean . 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