Hi Sanjiva, I think we all are in same page :) We have already work with UES team on dashboard development and Ruchira is up to date with what we are doing for dashboards (in fact they are helping us a lot). Going forward I will make sure to include UES team also in to millstone reviews.
Thanks ! On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[email protected]> wrote: > Sagara I think what Nuwan's saying is that there really are no > restrictions from UES for the AS team to achieve what you need. UES is > basically Jaggery plus the gadget store plus a bit more stuff .. using it > makes it easier for everyone to use stuff across the board. Putting the > nice HTML bits into a gadget.xml in particular makes a huge difference in > reusability in other places. > > I suggest we review the implementation approach with Nuwan and Ruchira and > the UES team. If there are specific limitations lets fix them - not ignore > the whole thing. The reviews we've had so far have been about the user > experience and the design .. not about how to implement it. > > I think this is the same point you're making ... better to get a > discussion between the teams and clear up any lingering issues/doubts. > > Sanjiva. > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Sagara Gunathunga <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Nuwan, >> >> There are number of mail threads[3] and meeting notes about entire >> architecture of improved AS monitoring capabilities which includes HTTP, >> connector, server level monitoring with AS. The long term vision is to >> enable users to do any kind of monitoring through AS ( + BAM) without >> bringing any other product. AS team has already developed a new data >> capturing, publishing and dashboard components for HTTP monitoring and will >> be used by some other products as well, here this thread Dakishitha >> discussing UXD of new dashboard only. Here I recap some of the important >> points below ( it seems without that context this UXD discussion is bit of >> disconnected ) >> >> >> 1. We have initially developed this dashboard to be hosted on BAM but >> during following meeting[1] we decided to move dashboards into AS like in >> API-M, this will be the common pattern across the platform where BAM team >> is no longer responsible to maintain data publishing agents and dashboards >> in product space. In future releases, products will ship their own >> dashboards and users have freedom to keep dashboards within the management >> node or in a dedicated dashboards node. BTW this does not mean product team >> duplicate and come with random dashboards, as an example HTTP monitoring >> feature developed by AS can be used for any HTTP monitoring use cases >> across the platform and ESB team already has a plan to reuse it. >> >> 2. During this[2] meeting we reviewed whole HTTP monitoring feature >> developed by Kalpa/Chamil and conclusion is we need to improve UX >> experience a lot. We suffer from this UX issues for long time specially >> with dashboards hence decided to focus on UX as a top priority this time. >> >> 3. We remain to use UES for these dashboards as a platform level >> visualization platform. At the moment above dashboard is developed on UES >> and Chamil is integrating UES features into AS with some helps from Manu. >> Having said we will not restrict by any limitations of current UES >> version, here the idea is we will discuss with UES team about required >> improvements and come to an agreement so that UES will absorb these changes >> down the line. Further though I'm not an expert in UES technologies I >> don't think we need any drastic changes form UES anyway. >> >> [1] - Invitation: AS-BAM Story - Finalize HTTP dashboards @ Wed Jun 11, >> 2014 3pm - 3:30pm ([email protected]) >> >> [2] - Invitation: AS HTTP Monitoring - Final Demo @ Mon Jul 7, 2014 4pm - >> 5pm (Kalpa Welivitigoda) >> >> [3] - AS-BAM application and server monitoring - Overall Architecture >> >> Thanks ! >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Nuwan Bandara <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dakishitha, >>> >>> UES dashboard creator does not have to support this grid, you can simply >>> create this as a custom site option in UES. We should build this and >>> package this as a default UES dashboard that will ship with UES and intern >>> ships with BAM (as BAM ships UES). >>> >>> Lets keep the consistency. If we are creating dashboards it has to go >>> through UES and not as random web applications. This also include some of >>> the custom pages that already there in BAM, we have to migrate them to UES >>> as well. >>> >>> In this way we can build dashboards for AS / MB / ESB in UES and people >>> can use UES as the common visualization platform. Also when you are >>> creating graphs / charts if they seem reusable we have to make them gadgets >>> and should be added to the gadget repository, so other dashboard creators >>> can use them. >>> >>> Regards, >>> /Nuwan >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Dakshika Jayathilaka <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> @nuwan: Not really. this will use on AS with BAM support. Current UES >>>> doesn't support for custom level grid and tabs. so above app will not >>>> totally based on current UES. but i'm planning to develop the way that we >>>> can extend it with next UES release. >>>> >>>> *Dakshika Jayathilaka* >>>> Software Engineer >>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>> 0771100911 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Ruchira Wageesha <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dakshika, >>>>> >>>>> What I meant is, there is something wrong with the green popup, which >>>>> doesn't match with the rest. i.e. Several edges have rounded corners and >>>>> several aren't. Sometimes, if you get rid of rounded edges of the popped >>>>> up >>>>> menu and expand it to the full width of the left vertical bar, then that >>>>> would be good IMO. >>>>> >>>>> /Ruchira >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Dakshika Jayathilaka < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @ruchira: by default it will load with collapsible left side bar. On >>>>>> that view sub menus will list under same main category. screen 3 implies >>>>>> the view on collapsed option. on that you can see the inner content by >>>>>> mouse hover. >>>>>> >>>>>> check below image for detail view on this.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Dakshika Jayathilaka* >>>>>> Software Engineer >>>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>> 0771100911 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Chathura Dilan <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Great!, Does Ruchira mean expanding that whole column and showing >>>>>>> the menu when clicking the icons instead of the popup menu? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Ruchira Wageesha <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Really nice Daskshika. One small thing from me. i.e. I prefer if >>>>>>>> you can do something with the menu popped up in the third image. >>>>>>>> Personally, I feel something wrong with that, though I am not exactly >>>>>>>> clear >>>>>>>> about that :). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Dakshika Jayathilaka < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I came up with UXD for HTTP monitoring dashboard user experience >>>>>>>>> aspects, based on[1], [2], [3]. Current target group would be DevOps, >>>>>>>>> Developers, CIO and can be extensible. UXDs are based on HCI major >>>>>>>>> principles, usability and human cognition. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Screen Designs: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *1. HTTP monitoring dashboard: *Mainly primary dashboard includes >>>>>>>>> application vice summarized data including some critical data. Color >>>>>>>>> blend >>>>>>>>> on main metro set focus to total request and error section. Inside >>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>> metro block guides user eye into important data value within the >>>>>>>>> block. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *2.App dashboard: *this includes application based data as a >>>>>>>>> summary. when you click on each section you can reach into next >>>>>>>>> extended >>>>>>>>> details page. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *3. Extended Data: *this extended view may differ depending on >>>>>>>>> the App dashboard selection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *General Considerations*: Top navigation may include user >>>>>>>>> specific data and Application based data. Left Sidebar navigation is >>>>>>>>> collapsible and it would helps to create more >>>>>>>>> spaces >>>>>>>>> for the data pixels. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Comments are welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] mail: [Training Project] Progress Update - AS HTTP Monitoring >>>>>>>>> with BAM >>>>>>>>> [2] mail: [Architecture] BAM Based monitoring solution for WSO2 >>>>>>>>> platform - Unification proposal >>>>>>>>> [3] mail: ASBAM application and server monitoring Monitoring >>>>>>>>> Parameters >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Dakshika Jayathilaka* >>>>>>>>> Software Engineer >>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. >>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware >>>>>>>>> 0771100911 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Ruchira Wageesha**Associate Technical Lead* >>>>>>>> *WSO2 Inc. - lean . enterprise . middleware | wso2.com >>>>>>>> <http://wso2.com>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *email: [email protected] <[email protected]>, blog: >>>>>>>> ruchirawageesha.blogspot.com <http://ruchirawageesha.blogspot.com>, >>>>>>>> mobile: +94 77 5493444 <%2B94%2077%205493444>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chatura Dilan Perera >>>>>>> *(Senior Software Engineer** - WSO2 Inc.* * [Mobile])* >>>>>>> www.dilan.me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Ruchira Wageesha**Associate Technical Lead* >>>>> *WSO2 Inc. - lean . enterprise . middleware | wso2.com >>>>> <http://wso2.com>* >>>>> >>>>> *email: [email protected] <[email protected]>, blog: >>>>> ruchirawageesha.blogspot.com <http://ruchirawageesha.blogspot.com>, >>>>> mobile: +94 77 5493444 <%2B94%2077%205493444>* >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Architecture mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *Thanks & Regards,* >>> * Nuwan Bandara | Senior Technical Lead - Solutions Architecture, WSO2 >>> Inc.+1 812.606.7390 <%2B1%20812.606.7390> | +1 650.745.4499 Ext 4210 >>> <%2B1%20650.745.4499%20Ext%204210> | http://nuwanbando.com >>> <http://nuwanbando.com> * <http://www.nuwanbando.com/> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Architecture mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sagara Gunathunga >> >> Senior Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com >> V.P Apache Web Services; http://ws.apache.org/ >> Linkedin; http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara >> Blog ; http://ssagara.blogspot.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Architecture mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >> >> > > > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > email: [email protected]; office: (+1 650 745 4499 | +94 11 214 5345) > x5700; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 408 466 5099; voip: +1 650 265 8311 > blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/; twitter: @sanjiva > Lean . 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