Hi Dmitry, Yes. It makes perfect sense. But the only problem is current implementation is not transferring each and every event when it happens. What I do is record the events and periodically send to the backend. The time period is large. (note: timestamp is recorded at the browser, so the actual time is preserved even though recording happens in 2 mins).
So what happens if a person browse away or hit cancel/ok before the next time slice? We are going to loose some events, unless we use the unload method. That was why I am looking for it. Other option is to reduce the time slice but that would increase the recording period. Chanaka's solution worked when used properly! thanks, dimuthu On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Dmitry Sotnikov <[email protected]> wrote: > Quick thought (maybe not relevant or inferior to the current direction ;)): > > Maybe instead of "abandoning events", we concentrate on events that show > success (and thus detect "failure" is "not achieving success")? > > For example, to invite team members you go through the following steps: > 1. Go to the team invitation page, > 2. Do something on the page (start filling out the forms to specify the > usernames/email addresses, roles, etc.), > 3. Send the invite, > 4. New member actually accepts and logs in, > 5. You add the user to an app, > 6. New member actually does something meaningful. > > If we have events for some of these steps but not all the way through #6 - > we know that the overall scenario failed, and we can also track the > percentage of users that got lost on each step. > > Does this make sense? > > Dmitry > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Chanaka Jayasena <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Use "beforeunload" with jQuery bind to catch this event. It works with >> FF, Chrome, and IE 7+ but not supported by Opera. Following is a sample >> code. >> >> $(window).bind('beforeunload', function() { >> //put code to save data >> return "Give a message to alert the user. Or >> simply remove the return statement."; >> }); >> >> thanks, >> Chanaka >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> This feature is almost complete. But facing issues in identifying window >>> abandoning events such as hitting the back button of the browser. Is there >>> a possible way to do this? Otherwise background saving will have to done >>> more frequently and would cause a lot more traffic. >>> >>> thanks, >>> dimuthu >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Amila Maha Arachchi <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dimuthu, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the explanation. >>>> >>>> With this kind of recording, I see another great advantage. That is to >>>> lineup all the activities done by a user. If we filter out activities of a >>>> user and sort them by time we'll get something like >>>> >>>> Clicked Create new application -> submitted application creation -> >>>> clicked application xyz -> clicker open button -> clicked repos and builds >>>> page etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Amila, >>>>> >>>>> This is how you can do it. Let me tell you by example. >>>>> >>>>> App creation page loads (we record timestamp here). And only one of >>>>> the following happens and pls note we record all timestamps. >>>>> >>>>> 1 - App creation button clicked >>>>> OR >>>>> 2 - Page unloads (meaning user browsed away) >>>>> OR >>>>> 3 - You see 2 on the same page messages >>>>> OR >>>>> 4 - User hit cacle >>>>> >>>>> What you have to do is write queries to figure out which event occur >>>>> after the app creation page loads - 1,2,3 or 4th. You can also calculate >>>>> with what probability each of these events occur after app creation page >>>>> occur. You can also measure average times. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> dimuthu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Amila Maha Arachchi <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Dimuthu, >>>>>> >>>>>> You have said that we want to know how much time did a user spend on >>>>>> completing an action. For this you need to publish an event when a button >>>>>> is clicked. And then, how are you going to publish the finished event? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Dmitry Sotnikov <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks good. I assume that Timestamp is Date/Time and not just time >>>>>>> (examples just have time - but I assume this is a typo). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dmitry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In addition let me give you some samples >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tenant Id | Username(email) | Item | Action | Timestamp | Context >>>>>>>> (Application) | App Type | Comments >>>>>>>> 450 | [email protected] | X-Button | Clicked | 12:09:40 | app1 | WAR | >>>>>>>> Additional data (optional) >>>>>>>> 780 | [email protected] | url of home page | loaded | 12:10:50 | none | >>>>>>>> none | Additional data (optional) >>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>> dimuthu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We can capture App Type event as well. So the even stream would be >>>>>>>>> updated as follows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tenant Id : Username(email) : Item : Action : Timestamp : Context >>>>>>>>> (Application) : App Type : Comments >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> dimuthu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Dmitry Sotnikov <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dimuthu, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are "comments" parameters of the action? For example, the type of >>>>>>>>>> application user chose when creating the new app? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That would be good to have so administrators know which app types >>>>>>>>>> are in use in their App Factory deployment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dmitry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Dimuthu Leelarathne < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A sample set of events a user would do, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> User x logged in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> App home loads >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked on “Add New Application” button >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Create application page loads >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked upload/create from scratch >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked “Create Application” >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> App home loads >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked on application tile >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked on repo url >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Did a commit === Not by browser but by a Git client >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Set the production URL >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Edit description >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Click on expand icons on current status on home page >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked on “Open URL” >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked on “Open Issues” from home page >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clicked “Delete Application” >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> User home loads >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> User x logged out >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *What we need to do* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Record these user’s events with the objective of understanding >>>>>>>>>>> user interactions with App Factory >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *What we need to understand about user interactions?* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - How much time user spend to between start action and end >>>>>>>>>>> action (Create application button and completing of that task) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - What are the most frequent actions a user would perform >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - What are the actions user started but never completed and why? >>>>>>>>>>> Session timeout, Hit Cancel, Or just browse away >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - What is the most frequently loaded page >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - What is the most frequently accessed application of a user? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *This we are going record* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tenant Id : Username(email) : Item : Action : Timestamp : >>>>>>>>>>> Context (Application) : Comments >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Methodology* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Each time an event happens we are going to keep it in the >>>>>>>>>>> JavaScript data structure. Then these data will be transferred to >>>>>>>>>>> backend >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Periodically (5 minutes) with another action called “on the >>>>>>>>>>> same page after 5 mins”- this is because if a session invalidates >>>>>>>>>>> we can >>>>>>>>>>> identify it by this action >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Or each time the page unloads >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When backend receive(Jaggery) the data it will be published to >>>>>>>>>>> the BAM. Then in the Java layer also we'll identify points that >>>>>>>>>>> user would >>>>>>>>>>> interact for example - commits and publish it to BAM. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> dimuthu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>>>>>>>>> Architect & Product Lead of App Factory >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . 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(http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dimuthu Leelarathne >>>>>>>> Architect & Product Lead of App Factory >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) >>>>>>>> email: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Mobile : 0773661935 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Architecture mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/architecture >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dmitry Sotnikov >>>>>>> VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >>>>>>> email: [email protected]; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov >>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . 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Middleware >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chanaka Jayasena >> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >> email: [email protected]; cell: +94 77 785 5565 >> blog: http://chanaka3d.blogspot.com >> > > > > -- > Dmitry Sotnikov > VP of Cloud; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > email: [email protected]; cell: +1.949.303.9653; Skype: DSotnikov > Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > <http://wso2.com/events/> > -- Dimuthu Leelarathne Architect & Product Lead of App Factory WSO2, Inc. (http://wso2.com) email: [email protected] Mobile : 0773661935 Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
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