+1 to make it more granular. We need a similar design to group/manage
events publishing ( for analytics ) as well.

Isabelle.
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*Isabelle Mauny*
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:48 AM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Chintana,
>
> It's possible to turn on/off metrics at runtime via JMX. I have added a
> JMX Bean to change the Metric levels. So, if the level is set to OFF, the
> metrics collection will be stopped. This level can be set initially via a
> system property at startup. As you mentioned, we cannot set system property
> externally at runtime and therefore I used JMX to avoid any server restarts
> when changing the levels.
>
> Right now, this metric level is applied to all metrics. However Azeez
> suggested that we should allow setting levels for each Metrics, so that we
> can enable/disable a set of metrics (similar to log4j). This part is not
> yet implemented.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Chintana Wilamuna <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Isuru,
>>
>> Is it possible to turn on/off metrics using a runtime property? Correct
>> me if I'm wrong, using a system property for metrics you have to restart
>> the server for metrics to be turned on/off?
>>
>>     -Chintana
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:42 AM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>>
>>> I just had a quick chat with Johann. Since there is some more time for
>>> next IS release, we can start integrating metrics with IS. I'll set up a
>>> meeting with IS team.
>>>
>>> As you mentioned, it would be great if we can integrate Metrics to ESB.
>>> As I know, ESB Team is in final stages for 4.9.0 release and I think we
>>> will have to integrate metrics after ESB 4.9.0 release. Kasun, WDYT?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Paul Fremantle <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suggest one of the following:
>>>>
>>>> * The ESB already has very advanced metrics. So a good test would be to
>>>> see if we can get all of those easily with the new component. That would
>>>> quickly get the new component up to a high quality.
>>>>
>>>> * The Identity Server market is becoming much more performance
>>>> sensitive, so metrics in IS would be really valuable.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 23 January 2015 at 06:59, Isuru Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just a quick update on Metrics integration.
>>>>>
>>>>>    - We decided to use a separate repository for metrics [1]. The
>>>>>    main reason is that we want to integrate Metrics to upcoming releases 
>>>>> and
>>>>>    it will take a longer time for products to use a new Carbon Kernel 
>>>>> version.
>>>>>    - Developed a new JDBC Reporter for Metrics [2]
>>>>>    - Now I'm working on a new UI for Metrics visualization. I
>>>>>    experimented with other tools and we decided to have a lightweight UI,
>>>>>    which can be integrated to WSO2 Products. I'm planning to use the data 
>>>>> from
>>>>>    a database and that's the main reason to develop a new JDBC reporter. 
>>>>> I'll
>>>>>    share the details of the UI later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the core part for Metrics API is ready, we can start integrating
>>>>> to the products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Srinath, please let me know which product to start with. Then we can
>>>>> discuss with relevant product team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://github.com/wso2/carbon-metrics
>>>>>
>>>>> [2]
>>>>> https://github.com/wso2/carbon-metrics/blob/master/components/org.wso2.carbon.metrics.jdbc.reporter/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/metrics/reporter/JDBCReporter.java
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sameera,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a PR to carbon4-kernel repository [1]. Could you please review
>>>>>> and merge it? I created CARBON-15115 [2] for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/wso2/carbon4-kernel/pull/125
>>>>>> [2] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/CARBON-15115
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Ramith Jayasinghe <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. This needs to be evaluated on loaded environments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have committed what I did so far to the WSO2 SVN scratch area
>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are two components.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    1. org.wso2.carbon.metrics.manager - Contains the WSO2 Metrics
>>>>>>>>    API, which will be used in the WSO2 platform.
>>>>>>>>    2. org.wso2.carbon.metrics.impl - The implementation of Metric
>>>>>>>>    Service, which will internally use the Metrics Java Library [2].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The main reason for having our own API is to introduce the support
>>>>>>>> for different metrics levels. This will also make sure that we are not
>>>>>>>> tightly coupled with Metrics Java library.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The org.wso2.carbon.metrics.manager.MetricManager [3] class has the
>>>>>>>> main API. This class is similar to the Metrics' MetricRegistry class 
>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>> and I have taken the helper methods to generate names etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I organized a code review and following are the notes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Participants: Azeez, Sameera, Ramith.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Code review was based on revision 210170 [5]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Azeez mentioned that having a global configuration for Level
>>>>>>>>    [6] might not be useful. Since we allow to create different Metrics 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>    different levels, we need to have a way to specify level for each 
>>>>>>>> Metric
>>>>>>>>    similar to Log4J. Configurations should be decided initially rather 
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>    introducing later.
>>>>>>>>    - Ramith asked whether we can support annotations. Metrics [2]
>>>>>>>>    support annotations for Spring with Spring's AOP support. Besides, 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>    annotation will help to measure up to method level only. It was 
>>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>>>    that we can use the APIs directly as we can use the given APIs 
>>>>>>>> whenever we
>>>>>>>>    need to measure.
>>>>>>>>    - The use of ConcurrentHashMap need to be reevaluated. The
>>>>>>>>    MetricManager also uses a ConcurrentHashMap similar to 
>>>>>>>> MetricRegistry to
>>>>>>>>    avoid duplicate Metric objects. We must test the Metrics API in high
>>>>>>>>    concurrent scenarios.
>>>>>>>>    - We decided to integrate the metrics components to Carbon
>>>>>>>>    Kernel first. I will start integrating the metrics to Carbon Kernel 
>>>>>>>> 4.4 in
>>>>>>>>    a different branch.
>>>>>>>>    - When logging, isErrorEnabled may not be necessary [7], but
>>>>>>>>    it's okay to have it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Azeez, Sameera, Ramith, please add if I missed anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In addition to the code review, I had a chat with Srinath yesterday
>>>>>>>> morning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We discussed that we must have a UI for Metrics. I will share the
>>>>>>>> details on that later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/scratch/metrics
>>>>>>>> [2] https://dropwizard.github.io/metrics
>>>>>>>> [3]
>>>>>>>> https://svn.wso2.org/repos/wso2/scratch/metrics/components/org.wso2.carbon.metrics.manager/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/metrics/manager/MetricManager.java
>>>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/dropwizard/metrics/blob/master/metrics-core/src/main/java/com/codahale/metrics/MetricRegistry.java
>>>>>>>> [5] http://wso2.org/svn/browse/wso2?view=revision&revision=210170
>>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/svn/browse/wso2/scratch/metrics/components/org.wso2.carbon.metrics.impl/src/test/resources/metrics.xml?view=markup&pathrev=210170
>>>>>>>> [7]
>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/svn/browse/wso2/scratch/metrics/components/org.wso2.carbon.metrics.manager/src/main/java/org/wso2/carbon/metrics/manager/internal/MetricManagerComponent.java?view=markup&pathrev=210170
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Me & Srinath discussed a bit more on implementation. Following are
>>>>>>>>> the notes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - We need to have different levels for each metric similar to
>>>>>>>>>    Log4J levels. The API for metric will have a way to specify the 
>>>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>>>>    - There should be a way to view historical data. By default,
>>>>>>>>>    we can use a log file.
>>>>>>>>>    - There should be a configuration file for metrics. The enable
>>>>>>>>>    option will be part of the configuration file. But it can be 
>>>>>>>>> overridden by
>>>>>>>>>    a System property.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Srinath,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please add if I missed anything. Also regarding the reporting
>>>>>>>>> options, the metrics provides support for Ganglia & Graphite [1]. The
>>>>>>>>> in-built support for HTTP reporting might not be directly useful for 
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> [2]. I will check on these and see how we can get the data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> https://dropwizard.github.io/metrics/3.1.0/getting-started/#other-reporting
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> https://dropwizard.github.io/metrics/3.1.0/manual/servlets/#manual-servlets
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Srinath Perera <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Look good Isuru!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Isuru Perera <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I played with following performance libraries.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    - Metrics
>>>>>>>>>>>    - Parfait
>>>>>>>>>>>    - JAMon
>>>>>>>>>>>    - Java Simon
>>>>>>>>>>>    - Perf4J
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did a simple comparison and blogged [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As Srinath mentioned, the Metrics library is more suitable for
>>>>>>>>>>> this proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It supports various measuring instruments like Meters, Counters,
>>>>>>>>>>> Histograms, Timers etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Metrics supports JMX reporting and we should be able to write
>>>>>>>>>>> our own reporting implementations easily. We can use a reporting
>>>>>>>>>>> implementation to integrate with BAM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no support to enable/disable metrics. Since this is an
>>>>>>>>>>> important feature for us, I'm thinking of introducing a custom 
>>>>>>>>>>> component
>>>>>>>>>>> for performance monitoring.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The custom component will support to enable/disable performance
>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring via system property and JMX. The WSO2 components will 
>>>>>>>>>>> use the
>>>>>>>>>>> new performance monitoring component and we will be using the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Metrics only
>>>>>>>>>>> inside the new component.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm working on this and for testing we need to select a WSO2
>>>>>>>>>>> product. I'm thinking of adding the performance probes to WSO2 API 
>>>>>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>>>>>> first. Since WSO2 CEP is also mentioned, we can have a look at that 
>>>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please share any suggestions or feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will update the thread once I create the initial design.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://isuru-perera.blogspot.com/2014/11/java-performance-monitoring-libraries.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Srinath Perera <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Thomas!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul, I looked at all 3 and really liked what Thomas sent (
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dropwizard.github.io/metrics/3.1.0/getting-started/).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Licence is Apache 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I will try this out with a training project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Thomas Wieger <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please have a look on the metrics lib, which quite nicely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provides support for capturing different kinds of statistics. see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dropwizard.github.io/metrics/3.1.0/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thomas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Freitag, 26. September 2014 schrieb Sajith Ravindra :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, CEP is another product where this kind of probes can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be really useful as we have to deal with performance related 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As there's a major refactoring going on in siddhi I think we can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we plant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probes like this into the Siddhi engine. It will be useful to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evaluate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-factored Sindhi engines performance as well as to figure out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottlenecks in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *,Sajith Ravindra*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile: +94 77 2273550
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://sajithr.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://lk.linkedin.com/pub/shani-ranasinghe/34/111/ab>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Srinath Perera <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have some pretty nice probes already in ESB, that let you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look into what is going in the same running in production.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do this generally and build it to other products. That 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should reduce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time we spent debugging issues significantly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My proposal is to build a probe Lib that looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are two kinds of things you need to collect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    1. Throughput at give point of code (how fast calls goes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    2. Latency between two points.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We will have two types of Probes. Code would look like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe probe = new Probe("Name", "throughput", timeDuration);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probe.recordThroughput();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe probe = new Probe("Name", "latency", timeDuration,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logLevel);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long id = probe.startTicking() // this so same probe can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used by many threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probe.endTicking(id);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probe will summarise data over given duration and expose. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    1. JMX bean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    2. BAM Agent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    3. Can turn on, off via JMX agent or via System property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    4. Have Tool Box
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    5. Have in product UI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    6. Can configured to write data to logs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each probe should be very small and should be able to create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thousands without much effect. (e.g. create one for each 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mediator type)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Srinath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Isuru Perera
>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer | WSO2, Inc. | http://wso2.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> about.me/chrishantha
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ============================
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>>>>>>>>>> Site: http://people.apache.org/~hemapani/
>>>>>>>>>> Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hemapani/
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0772360902
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Isuru Perera
>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer | WSO2, Inc. | http://wso2.com/
>>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> about.me/chrishantha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Isuru Perera
>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer | WSO2, Inc. | http://wso2.com/
>>>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer | WSO2, Inc. | http://wso2.com/
>>>>>> Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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