Hi Malaka,

By going through the links you have shared, what I understood was that the
most important requirement for a streaming api to work is having a
persisted connection. This needs to be done no matter how we implement our
logic. I cannot agree with you on the statement that polling cycle needs to
make all the connection, session creation each time. We don't need to do
that if we have the persisted connection.

If you check the example mentioned in [1] salesforce streaming api
documentation, it has a while loop with a thread sleep for only receiving
data within that period. I could not find any place where they have
"recommended" busy-wait strategy for client implementations. In that
example, it has registered for a topic and implemented the "onMessage"
method to process the message when the messaging event is executed. This is
like an event based listening implementation.

Am I missing something here?

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Malaka Silva <[email protected]> wrote:

> Chanaka some apis only supports this behavior only and for some it is the
> recommended way. eg: twitter. salesforce
>
> The other concern is some apis have limited number of calls per 24 hours.
> eg: Salesforce has a daily limit. So if we keep on polling there are
> chances that we may reach there limit.
>
> Also with polling ​each cycle needs to make the connection, session, etc
> with api each time and may increase the latency. Users
> will see better performance with lower resource consumption
> ​ overall​ with this approach
> .
>
> IMO ​optimum way depends on the api and since we have all 3 options now we
> can do the research and do it based on the best approach at the time of
> implementation.​
>
> ​[1] https://dev.twitter.com/streaming/overview
> [2]
> https://developer.salesforce.com/page/Getting_Started_with_the_Force.com_Streaming_API
> ​
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Chanaka Fernando <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Malaka,
>>
>> What I understood by a little research on the internet is that, busy
>> waiting will use the CPU cycles while waiting. But if we are going with
>> polling or event based listening approach, we can use those CPU cycles for
>> some other useful tasks. What are the advantages of using busy-waiting
>> instead of polling or listening for events?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Malaka Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Added the new type and will be available with ESB 410.
>>>
>>> @Kathees and Hariprasath - We need to add a new version of twitter and
>>> salesforce streaming connectors after esb 410 release.
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]2
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Malaka Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ​With ESB 4.9.0 customized inbound can only be created for ​polling and
>>>> listening.
>>>>
>>>> But we need to have a different category to implement busy-waiting
>>>> types.
>>>>
>>>> This will not come under pure listening since coordination is part of
>>>> the requirement for this type. Currently these are implemented as polling
>>>> and this is not the best solution. [1]
>>>>
>>>> eg:- Twitter streaming inbound, Salesforce streaming inbound
>>>>
>>>> ​[1] https://docs.wso2.com/display/ESB490/Custom+Inbound+Endpoint​
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Malaka Silva
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