Hi, Manu/Sameera.

In any case, OSGI Container based tests won't be unit tests. And if any
test integrates more than one unit it would be an integration test in
theory.  But we cannot stick to hard and fast rules. Yes, I'm also against
to the point calling PaxExan test are unit tests. But we have to use them
to test our containerized platform. So we have to give guys the option to
write a PaxExan test only and only if it could not be covered by a java
level unit test. But at some point mocking becomes really expensive we have
to use alternative paths , sometimes violating some basics.

At the moment MB team is doing a great job maintaining good discipline in
adding tests.  Other teams must come to that level and be active and
discuss before adding PaxEam tests.

But what Sameera initiates here is different from both existing unit test
and PaxExam tests. It should come under the feature level, not component
level. So that we can test each feature basic functionalities like whether
feature starts correctly with the base carbon features. Whether all ports
are exposed as expected so on.

My point here is we need some mechanism to say this bundle is working and
activated correctly before it gets deployed in final product pack. So as my
understanding this is not a unit test. But this will cover the feature
level before we build up the final pack and test whole scenario in
 production like platform.

Thank you,
Dharshana.

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:15 AM, Manuranga Perera <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my view,
>
> A test is not a unit test if:
>>
>>    - It talks to the database
>>    - It communicates across the network
>>    - It touches the file system
>>    - It can't run at the same time as any of your other unit tests
>>    - You have to do special things to your environment (such as editing
>>    config files) to run it. [1]
>>
>> But I am not saying integration tests are bad or anything. We need
> integration tests, and PAX is a good way to do that. But those are
> integration tests.
>
>
> [1] http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=126923
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Sameera Jayasoma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Manu,
>>
>> You are missing the whole point here. Just because we copy a file in our
>> tests, they don't become integration tests. Can you tell me what an
>> integration test from your understanding?
>>
>> We do not need to copy files and hard-code OSGi bundles once this Pax
>> Exam container for Carbon 5 is available.
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Manuranga Perera <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dharshana,
>>>
>>>> Avoid product teams to overuse containers to make it to the integration
>>>> level.
>>>
>>> PAX is already at integration level. You can see the kernel team is
>>> coping yaml files in PAX tests. This means they not unit tests.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://github.com/wso2/carbon-kernel/blob/master/tests/osgi-tests/src/test/java/org/wso2/carbon/osgi/runtime/CarbonRuntimeOSGiTest.java#L120
>>> --
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>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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