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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Charini Nanayakkara <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Suho,
>
> I have already implemented and added this to docs (
> https://docs.wso2.com/display/CEP420/Inbuilt+Windows#InbuiltWindows-externalTimeBatch).
> Yesterday I learnt of a 5th parameter added to external time batch by you,
> which I assume is being handled by Ramindu.
>
> Regards,
> Charini
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 5:36 AM, Sriskandarajah Suhothayan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Charini,
>>
>> Is this implemented? If so can you add this to the docs if it's not done
>> so far?
>>
>> Regards
>> Suho
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Charini Nanayakkara <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Grainier,
>>>
>>> Answers to your queries are as follows.
>>>
>>> 1. What will happen to the events that arrive before, 0th-millisecond of
>>>> an hour? And is this 0th-millisecond taken relative to current-time or the
>>>> external-time?
>>>>
>>>
>>>  The third parameter is taken relative to external time, whereas the
>>> events arriving before the 0th millisecond of an hour, would be processed
>>> at the next hour. For example, assume that the external time of an event is
>>> 10.45. If the third parameter is 0, then the relevant event would be
>>> processed at 11.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2. What do you mean by if the value is not provided? Does this
>>>> introduces an overload method to externalTimeBatch
>>>>
>>> The 3rd and 4th parameters of external time batch are optional.
>>> Therefore if a time batch is provided as
>>> #window.externalTimeBatch(external_time, 2 min), the  "external_time" of
>>> the 1st event arriving to the relevant stream would be taken as the start
>>> time.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> from LoginEvents#window.externalTimeBatch(timestamp, 1 sec, 0, 3 sec)
>>>>
>>>> 3. With above impl, if an event which belongs to the current batch,
>>>> arrives after the given timeout, will it be processed as a new batch?
>>>>
>>>  In such a scenario, we would obtain two outputs for the same batch. One
>>> output would be obtained when timeout is elapsed. Another output would be
>>> obtained if an event of the same batch arrives after the timeout has
>>> expired. However in the second instance, all the events of the relevant
>>> batch would be considered. Not just the new events.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Charini
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Grainier.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Charini Nanayakkara <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Imesh,
>>>>>
>>>>> Specifying a timeout is already allowed in Siddhi. An example is as
>>>>> follows.
>>>>>
>>>>> from LoginEvents#window.externalTimeBatch(timestamp, 1 sec, 0, 3 sec)
>>>>> select timestamp, ip, count() as total
>>>>> insert all events into uniqueIps
>>>>>
>>>>> In this instance, events would be batched based on "timestamp" value.
>>>>> A batch would comprise of events arriving within 1 sec (as per the
>>>>> "timestamp"). The third parameter 0 specifies that batching must start 
>>>>> from
>>>>> the 0th millisecond of an hour. If this value was not provided, the 
>>>>> default
>>>>> start time would have been the timestamp value of the 1st event. The 4th
>>>>> parameter indicates the timeout. When 3rd parameter is not provided, 
>>>>> output
>>>>> for a 1 sec batch is obtained only if that entire batch is completed (i.e.
>>>>> Siddhi learns that data worth of 1 sec has arrived only when it gets an
>>>>> event belonging to next batch). However, this timeout allows us to obtain
>>>>> an output in 3 seconds (based on UTC time) , even if a 1 sec batch is not
>>>>> completed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue with this implementation is, it disallows us to use the
>>>>> timeout while using 1st event's timestamp as start time. The suggested
>>>>> solution allows us to use either a variable or constant as 3rd parameter.
>>>>> Thus, subsequent to the implementation, we should be able to provide
>>>>> "timestamp" attribute as the 3rd parameter, from which Siddhi would derive
>>>>> 1st event's timestamp value to be used as start time (from
>>>>> LoginEvents#window.externalTimeBatch(timestamp, 1 sec, timestamp, 3 sec)).
>>>>> However the capability of specifying a constant value (as in the given
>>>>> example) too would be retained.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Charini
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Charini,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A great thought!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it be possible for you to explain this requirement with an
>>>>>> example written in Siddhi? Specifically how to generate a custom event on
>>>>>> the timeout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, July 11, 2016, Charini Nanayakkara <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have planned to improve the current implementation of external
>>>>>>> time batch window, to allow accepting first event's time as start time,
>>>>>>> when specifying a timeout.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the current implementation, the 3rd parameter allows user to
>>>>>>> provide a user defined start time (whereas the default is to use first
>>>>>>> event's time as start time). This value is required to be a constant. 
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> 4th parameter is reserved for specifying a timeout, which is valuable 
>>>>>>> in an
>>>>>>> instance where output needs to be given if events don't arrive for some
>>>>>>> time. However, this implementation disallows a user to use the default
>>>>>>> start time (first event's start time) and timeout together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore, I intend to change the implementation such that user can
>>>>>>> either provide a variable or a constant as 3rd parameter. This enables 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> external time field to be given as 3rd parameter, from which Siddhi can
>>>>>>> retrieve 1st event's time to be used as start time. Alternatively, a
>>>>>>> constant value could be given if user defined start time is required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suggestions and comments are most welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> Charini
>>>>>>>
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