On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Sajith Ravindra <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Persistence could be a case here. When we send events to CEP, it only
>> processes them in-memory and forgets about it. But in the case of DAS it
>> needs to persist each and every event it receives in the EVENT tables. This
>> could be taking up cycles and hence affecting data receival.
>>
>
>
> I also agree with Nuwan. We  did a similar performance test for IS
> analytics[1] and we observed that performance with persistence the is
> several factors less than the performance without persistence.  Since we
> persist each incoming event into DB there's big impact on performance.
>
Yes it can be due to persistence layer.
@Supun, did we checked this Que filling issue happen due to limitation of
publisher or limitation of receiver?

Thanks,
sanjeewa.

>
> [1] - [Architecture] IS-Analytics performance
>
> Thanks
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> On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Imesh Gunaratne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Supun Sethunga <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Please find the deployment setup details at [1]. Some parts of it are
>>> yet to be completed though.
>>>
>>> @Imesh: No, we haven't created any puppet scripts for the setup.
>>>
>>
>> ​Thanks Supun! Few things I noticed:
>>
>>    - ​
>>    ​As I see we have run this on AWS. If so we can create a Cloud
>>    Formation ​script to automate the entire deployment (may be Puppet can be
>>    internally used but not mandatory).
>>    - The reason why we need automation for this is, as I believe
>>    performance tests should be able to run by any user for verifying the
>>    results. We have done this in MSF4J.
>>
>>    - Is there any reason to use a VM for MySQL without using RDS?
>>
>> T
>> ​hanks
>>
>>
>>
>>> ​
>>> @MalithJ: Input was controlled using Jmeter. Throughput is measured at
>>> the receiver side, in databridge level. (We can get it using
>>> -DprofileReceiver=true property)
>>>
>>> @Sanjeew/Harsha: This was tested with the default protocols (Binary for
>>> throttle publisher and thrift for the other publishers), but with tuned up
>>> data-agent-configs. Here I used four separate standalone APIm nodes, only
>>> to generate the events. This was not possible to simulate with a thrift
>>> client like we did for ESB Analytics, because here we have multiple
>>> receivers (unlike in ESB Analytics case), and the events are received at
>>> differents rates to those different receivers. We can publish to the
>>> streams separately, but it would not be same as a real world scenario..
>>> Here the limitation of the throughput is caused by the complexity of the
>>> execution plans and the stream persisting, at the Analytics Server.
>>>
>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A1Pq-nOi9PmGdZz3wNov
>>> Pc7kG3vc74p93tOTh_WYp_o/edit#
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Supun
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Sanjeewa Malalgoda <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Harsha Kumara <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Supun Sethunga <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We carried out some performance tests for APIM Analytics server in a
>>>>>> Minimum HA setup. Idea was to saturate the Analytics server up to the
>>>>>> maximum number of requests it can handle, without APIM (client side)
>>>>>> getting their publisher queues full, see how it will behave in the long 
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> (for couple of hours). With this test, found out that the maximum
>>>>>> throughput it can handle is around 18,000 requests / sec. Please see 
>>>>>> below.
>>>>>> For this test, used tomcat echo service as the backend. Used 4 standalone
>>>>>> APIM servers to achieve the throughput.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This means if we scale up the API gateways, it will lead to getting
>>>>> queue fill messages frequently when request throughput to DAS node is
>>>>> larger than 19000 TPS. Since DAS node can handle more than 19000 TPS, this
>>>>> behavior may cause due to rate of DAS server accepting messages is less
>>>>> than the rate of message coming to gateways which leads to filling the
>>>>> queues in gateways. Is this tested with binary or thrift transport? May be
>>>>> better if we can have results for both binary and thrift transports.
>>>>>
>>>> When we test API Manager throttling we sent throttling events to CEP
>>>> data receiver, we were able to send much more requests than this.
>>>> I think in DAS also we are using same data receiver implementation(like
>>>> harsha mentioned is it on thrift or binary?).
>>>> If i remember correctly single data receiver handled 30000 or more
>>>> requests(we had 10 gateways or so).
>>>> I think here we need to check how data receiver and analyzer behaves
>>>> when it have high load. So we may directly test it with client tool. If you
>>>> test with gateway then anyway it will fail at 4500TPS(even if Que filling
>>>> issue sorted)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> sanjeewa.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Raw data can be found at [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>> If we increase the throughput beyond 19,000 requests/sec, then the
>>>>>> queues at APIM side get filled after sometime. Please refer the 2nd, 3rd,
>>>>>> and 4th sheets of [1]. The huge variance towards the end in those charts
>>>>>> were due the queues getting filled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will add these to a performance results template, including the
>>>>>> advanced details about the setups and the configs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vVRPp8b31DccJ1A6
>>>>>> p9MRGxzmLAX2yiGAebT25kpsLzg/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Supun
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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