On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 5:09 PM Ruwan Abeykoon <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dewni/Malithi,
>
> Can we use "*Primary*Email.verificationPending"  instead of
> verificationPending*Primary*Email?
> In this way we can design a regex for any future pending verifications,
> like "PrimaryPhone.verificationPending"
>

+1.
@Dewni Weeraman <[email protected]> , as this binds to the "emailaddress" (
http://wso2.org/claims/emailaddress) claim right now, I think we can have
it as "emailaddress.verificationPending" (
http://wso2.org/claims/emailaddress.verificationPending).

So that it properly reflects for which claim verification is pending.


> Cheers,
> Ruwan A
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 6:20 AM Dewni Weeraman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> We will be providing the feature for $subject only in instances where the
>> user's primary email address is to be updated. When a SCIM update request
>> for the primary email address is performed, the email address to which the
>> verification email is sent is represented via the
>> "verificationPendingPrimaryEmail" attribute in the SCIM response body.
>> The mutability of "verificationPendingPrimaryEmail" attribute will be set
>> to *readOnly *so as to prevent direct insertion or modification of this
>> attribute via a SCIM request. Please note that initially this new attribute
>> was planned to be named as "verificationPendingEmail", however since the
>> above feature is only applicable for the primary email address, we have
>> changed the wording to "verificationPending*Primary*Email" to avoid any
>> confusion.
>>
>> In a scenario where the update request contains claims in addition to the
>> email address, these other claims will be updated. The HTTP response status
>> code will be *200 - OK. *As discussed previously in this mail thread the
>> email claim will not be updated. The new email address is stored against
>> "verificationPendingPrimaryEmail" claim until the verification process has
>> been completed successfully.
>>
>> Formerly it was decided that the presence of the "verifyEmail" attribute
>> in the SCIM request is mandatory to trigger the verification. We have
>> identified that then we will have the complexity of handling update
>> requests to SCIM /Me endpoint and /Users endpoint separately. The reason
>> for this is the user can update the email address directly using the /Me
>> endpoint without triggering an email verification if the request doesn't
>> contain "verifyEmail" attribute despite the feature being enabled via the
>> server configuration or not. To avoid this malicious behavior we have
>> decided that enabling this feature will solely depend on the server
>> configuration and we will not be checking on the availability of
>> "verifyEmail" attribute in the SCIM request.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dewni
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 7:29 AM Malithi Edirisinghe <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 6:18 PM Johann Nallathamby <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Malithi, Hi Ajanthan,
>>>>
>>>> OK. So if we think like that, how do you propose we do 2FA for security
>>>> question update? Are you implying that we initiate a SSO flow with higher
>>>> requested assurance level, so that in IS a step-up authentication is
>>>> performed and returned back to the service provider, to update his/her
>>>> security questions?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. And we can do this with conditional auth scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this is possible with IS then +1 for that. But also I would like to
>>>> have in the roadmap to do this purely through Rest APIs without ever
>>>> leaving the service provider.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's subjective. Maybe if it's some email or mobile based
>>> confirmation it would be fine. But, for advanced options service provider
>>> will have to manage user interactions if so. What would be the tendency to
>>> implement such in SP level.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Johann.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:28 AM Malithi Edirisinghe <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Johann,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:49 AM Ajanthan Balachandran <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Johann,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think here we are talking about two different things. Feel free to
>>>>>> correct me if I am wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the first case, we are trying to assert the value of the claims
>>>>>> provided by the user. In the case of phone number and email claims 
>>>>>> sending
>>>>>> verification code does make sense but to assert the first name or last 
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> sending verification code to email or phone doesn't give enough
>>>>>> assurance(usually photo ID proof is needed to verify names).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you are talking about is getting enough assurance level for the
>>>>>> authenticated user by prompting 2FA to be able to update security
>>>>>> questions. This should be handled by auth system not the claim 
>>>>>> verification
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm under the same understanding with Ajanthan.
>>>>> It should be a 2FA flow.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ajanthan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Malithi
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Thanks,
Malithi.
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