On 12/3/06, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3 Dec 06, at 11:29 PM 3 Dec 06, Carlos Sanchez wrote:

> I think something like http://www.slf4j.org/ can allow using libraries
> that use commons-logging without getting its problems
>

I didn't see it in there anyway, but the problem is not only that
commons-logging is a piece of crap

My understanding is that the classloader issues have been worked out
in the 1.1 release.

, but that people also abuse it and
put logging in libraries when they should be throwing exceptions and
be tested properly so you know what it does and so you don't have to
stick logging in a library which is just plain dumb.

DBCP and FileUpload are two where I can see that I would want to log,
but for most libraries I don't see the need. IO and Lang (two I've
introduced so far) don't use logging.

Hen

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