Thank you Joe

I thought as much, but chose to pick the collective mind.

 
Keith Palmateer
ILL and Summit Coordinator
Portland Community College
17705 NW Springville Rd
Portland, OR 97229

503-614-7433

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Ellison
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:05 PM
To: 'Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System'
Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] Secure FTP transfers w/ Ariel

As far as I know the store-and-forward server has nothing to do with secure
FTP. Secure FTP is a newer, specific protocol, requiring the use of SSH (a
security protocol) to provide a secure layer under the file transfer.
There's a reasonably good explanation in wikipedia, at
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol>. It is not
supported by standard FTP clients, such as that included in Ariel. If Ariel
supported secure FTP there would be the option to select it as part of the
set-up preferences. By contrast, the store-and-forward and
store-and-retrieve servers provide a modicum of security by allowing you to
operate Ariel behind a firewall, only opening a single port while you are
actually retrieving requests from the receiving server (store-and-forward
requires that single port to be open all the time). 

Joe Ellison
Document Delivery and Digital Initiatives Assistant
Transportation Library, Northwestern Univ Library (OCLC = JCR)
1970 Campus Dr, Evanston, IL 60208-2300
voice: 847-491-8600, fax: 847-491-8601
[email protected]
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/transportation/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:arie-l-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Thompson
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:35 PM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] Secure FTP transfers w/ Ariel
> 
> Waynesburg University uses Ariel's store and forward server as
> described. All Ariel documents first go to this IP address:
> 216.XX.XX.XX. Then they are forwarded to our University's address.
> 
> The full address string looks like this: 216.XX.XX.XX/147.XX.XX.XX.
> 147, etc. is the string for our institution.
> 
> I have not given out the specific address for obvious reasons.
> 
> Out going messages go to the same email address, with the IP of the
> destination institution following the slash.
> 
> The advantage to this is that our IT department only has to open the
> firewall up enough to allow email going to that particular IP address,
> and only receives email coming from it.
> 
> I believe that all of this is covered in the documentation.
> 
> This has been working fine for us for several years. Occasionally--less
> than once a year--there has been a problem when the Ariel server has
> gone down.
> 
> John Thompson
> Waynesburg University
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Document
> Delivery
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:29 AM
> To: Discussion of the Ariel Document Transmission System
> Subject: RE: [ARIE-L] Secure FTP transfers w/ Ariel
> 
> Yes, I think you can send them securely to Ariel's store and forward
> server, and they'll forward them to the library they are going to. We
> don't use this, but I've seen it,
> 
> Ed Helmrich
> Iona College
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [email protected] on behalf of Keith
> Sent: Fri 7/17/2009 4:39 PM
> To: ARIE-L
> Subject: [ARIE-L] Secure FTP transfers w/ Ariel
> 
> 
> 
> I need to know if Ariel is capable of a Secure FTP transfer of articles
> to a
> server.  Personally, I doubt this.
> 
> If your institution has a work around please reply on the list.  I will
> bet
> I am not the only one wanting to know this.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you all
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  <mailto:[email protected]> Keith Palmateer
> 
> ILL and Summit Coordinator
> 
> Portland Community College
> 
> 17705 NW Springville Rd
> 
> Portland, OR 97229
> 
> 
> 
> 503-614-7433
> 
> 
> 
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