Hey all,

I don't see any particular advantages/disadvantages to any of the
options if you are using a mail client that supports filters.

But, for the sake of keeping list archives clean - I would lean toward
using the commit@ list.  Anyone who is a committer should be subscribed
and most casual (non-dev) users will not be.

But it might make sense to put this subject onto its own discuss/vote
threads rather than continuing to hijack this one.

Jay


Joe Bohn wrote:
> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>> 2009/9/30 Daniel Kulp <[email protected]>:
>>> One more issue..
>>>
>>> I did NOT turn on the email notifications yet.   Do we want them and
>>> where
>>> should they be sent?
>>
>> What notifications get sent ... all failures presumably, all successes
>> too? I guess it's configurable.
>> I looked at
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cxf-notifications/200909.mbox/browser
>>
>> and yikes! there's some non ASCII in the subject.
>>
>>> There are basically three schools of thought:
>>>
>>> 1) A dedicated notifications@ list.   A couple projects (like CXF)
>>> use this
>>> approach.  If you are interested, subscribe.  If not, don't.   (note:
>>> the
>>> people committing changes contributing to a build also get an email on
>>> failures)
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> 2) dev@    Some projects use this as all developers should know if
>>> builds are
>>> failing.   Then again, some people think it pollutes/dilutes the
>>> value of the
>>> dev list.
>>
>> -1 not good for encouraging non-committers to subscribe to aries-dev
>>
>>> 3) commits@   Since builds are informational similar to the commits,
>>> put all
>>> such notices together.
>>
>> -0 don't you have to subscribe to this using an apache id? It would be
>> good if non-committers can see the notifications if they like, but not
>> a problem if they can't - they just have to take a look at the CI
>> machine
> 
> You don't need an apache id to subscribe. It is just recommended that if
> you are making commits that you subscribe using your apache id so that
> commit notifications sent from your apache id are not rejected by the
> list.  I personally think #3 is a good compromise - keeping the dev list
> clean and sending the build messages in relative order with the commit
> messages.
> 
>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed September 30 2009 9:13:17 am Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>> I setup a basic build (on checkin) and a deploy build (once a day if
>>>>  changes) to deploy snapshots.
>>>>
>>>> http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/view/Aries/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In both cases, I used Maven 2.2.1 and Java 6.  Are people OK with that?
>>>> Should we also setup a Java 5 build?
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed September 30 2009 9:02:22 am Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>>> 2009/9/30 Daniel Kulp <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> http://hudson.zones.apache.org/hudson/
>>>>> Nice that the tabs are alphabetically organised - I won't have to page
>>>>> right to get to Aries :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> In anycase, I'll setup a build.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed September 30 2009 8:46:07 am Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm curious about Hudson. I've not used it before. What are the
>>>>>>> advantages over continuum, which admittedly is something I'm more
>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>> to. There is an instance of continuum at vmbuild.apache.org which we
>>>>>>> could potentially use. I just looked at hudson.dev.java.net ... is
>>>>>>> there an instance of it running in the apache.org domain or are you
>>>>>>> suggesting we build at java.net?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/9/30 David Bosschaert <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've just committed the parent pom structure and updated the
>>>>>>>> Blueprint component to use it.
>>>>>>>> You can now run 'mvn install' from the Aries trunk to build
>>>>>>>> everything (which currently is just blueprint :).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess this would be enough to get a Hudson build going... Anyone
>>>>>>>> with the right credentials there fancy setting it up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Daniel Kulp
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>>> -- 
>>> Daniel Kulp
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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