On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 15:43, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri October 16 2009 6:18:55 am Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> It does give one data point though for me. how well folks are >> listening to their mentors :) > > Yea. No kidding. If you look at just the IPMC binding votes, you get:
I strongly disagree with this view that in this vote IPMC votes are more binding than PPMC votes. As i just replied on the other thread, IPMC votes are the only binding votes when the ASF is at sake (because the podling is adding a new committer, doing a release or such). I don't think this is the case here. > +1 - none > > +0 - Guillaume Nodet > > -1 x 5 - Bertrand Delacretaz, Daniel Kulp, Kevan Miller, Davanum Srinivas, > Alan Cabrera > > > That's pretty one sided. If you ask me, it says something about how well > people are grasping (or not) the Apache community aspects of things. Don't be pushy and ignore the other votes. Even if those were not bindings, there's a large portion of people having voted +1 and ignoring those is just bad and does not show much respect for them. > Little red flags start popping up.... not good..... > > Dan > > > >> >> -- dims >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Jeremy Hughes <[email protected]> wrote: >> > 2009/10/16 Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]>: >> >> Well, in Apache terms it would be "consensus has not been reached"... >> >> For any relevant vote, which is Yes/No, this vote would fail ("more >> >> positive than negative"), but it is not a Yes/No vote, and hence the >> >> outcome is "undetermined" in my opinion. >> >> >> >> I have not voted on the basis that; >> >> >> >> a. Bike Shedding, >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Triviality >> > >> > Not seen that before. I agree it would seem that applies here. >> > >> >> b. Not sure if the content needs long term preservation or not. >> > >> > Would be nice but not essential as anything that is crucial >> > documentation should be moved over to the project doc. >> > >> >> c. Why does people even argue over it? >> >> >> >> Solution? Do both? Does it matter? >> > >> > Agreed, in hindsight, IMHO a vote probably wasn't needed because we >> > can just do both. >> > >> > Jeremy >> > > -- > Daniel Kulp > [email protected] > http://www.dankulp.com/blog > -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ Open Source SOA http://fusesource.com
