Emily,
That sounds reasonable to me. Will you add this to your
documentation-to-do list?

Regards,
Mark

On 17 November 2010 10:31, Emily Jiang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Based on Jarek's comments, we can make the provisioning against local
> runtime configurable via a system variable,
> "provision.exclude.local.repository". The default behaviour is that we
> provision EBA applications against the local runtimes (apache aries default
> behaviour) unless the system variable is set to true. In this way, any
> application servers can set this system variable to 'true' in their
> environment if they want to change the default behaviour. We won't need to
> change apache aries default behaviour.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Thanks
> Emily
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jarek Gawor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Emily,
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstood what you meant in your original email but here's
>> what I'm thinking of. If I install some eba that has logging api
>> dependencies and my rumtime provides logging api I want the eba to use
>> the logging api provided by the runtime.
>>
>> Jarek
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Emily Jiang <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Jarek,
>> >
>> > Alasdair was correct that this was not related to isolation and it was
>> our
>> > policy on provisioning.
>> >
>> > Are you happy with the suggestion of choosing not to provision against
>> local
>> > platform repositories (runtime jars)?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Emily
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, not sure what this has to do with isolation.
>> >>
>> >> Alasdair
>> >>
>> >> On 15 Nov 2010, at 16:13, Jarek Gawor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I think we should keep the current behavior and make it configurable.
>> >> > Not all environments support isolation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jarek
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Emily Jiang <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> A month ago, I raised a question about disabling resolving an
>> >> application
>> >> >> against local platform repository (runtime bundles). No one seems to
>> >> object
>> >> >> the idea. I will go ahead to make the changes tomorrow not to
>> provision
>> >> >> against the runtime bundles when provisioning an EBA application. If
>> you
>> >> >> have any different opinion, please shout now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Emily
>> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >> From: Emily Jiang <[email protected]>
>> >> >> Date: 15 October 2010 14:23
>> >> >> Subject: [Discussion] resolving against local platform repository
>> >> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At the moment, our aries resolver resolves eba files against local
>> >> >> platform repositories, which means that customer bundles will be able
>> to
>> >> >> import packages exported by our runtime bundles, such as
>> >> >> org.apache.aries.application.api_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT. Ideally,
>> we
>> >> >> should not allow customer bundles depend on our runtime bundles,
>> which
>> >> >> should be private to our own runtime framework. I think not many ( or
>> >> even
>> >> >> none:o) App Server would like to expose their internal to customer
>> >> >> bundles. Any objections for excluding the local runtime bundles when
>> we
>> >> >> perform provisioning?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If we do decide to keep the current behaviour, we should give an
>> option
>> >> to
>> >> >> the app servers to alter this behaviour (e.g. make their runtime
>> bundles
>> >> >> invisible to provisioner). Thoughts?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Below are the subset of the runtime bundles for setting up itests:
>> >> >> {1=org.ops4j.pax.exam_1.2.0 [1],
>> >> >>  2=org.ops4j.pax.exam.junit.extender_1.2.0 [2],
>> >> >>  3=org.ops4j.pax.exam.junit.extender.impl_1.2.0 [3],
>> >> >>  4=wrap_mvn_org.ops4j.pax.exam_pax-exam-junit_1.2.0_0.0.0 [4],
>> >> >>  5=org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-api_1.4.0 [5],
>> >> >>  6=org.ops4j.pax.logging.pax-logging-service_1.4.0 [6],
>> >> >>  7=org.apache.felix.configadmin_1.2.4 [7],
>> >> >>  8=org.ops4j.pax.url.mvn_1.1.2 [8],
>> >> >>  9=org.apache.aries.application.api_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT [9],
>> >> >>  10=org.apache.aries.application.utils_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> [10],
>> >> >>  11=org.apache.aries.application.management_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [11],
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> 12=org.apache.aries.application.default.local.platform_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [12],
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> 13=org.apache.aries.application.noop.platform.repo_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [13],
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> 14=org.apache.aries.application.noop.postresolve.process_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [14],
>> >> >>  15=org.apache.aries.application.runtime_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> [15],
>> >> >>
>>  16=org.apache.aries.application.resolver.obr_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [16],
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> 17=org.apache.aries.application.deployment.management_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [17],
>> >> >>  18=org.apache.aries.application.modeller_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> [18],
>> >> >>  19=org.apache.felix.bundlerepository_1.6.4 [19],
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> 20=org.apache.aries.application.runtime.itest.interfaces_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT
>> >> >> [20],
>> >> >>  21=org.apache.aries.util_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT [21],
>> >> >>  22=org.apache.aries.blueprint_0.3.0.incubating-SNAPSHOT [22],
>> >> >>  23=osgi.cmpn_4.2.0.200908310645 [23], ....}
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many thanks and kindest regards,
>> >> >> Emily
>> >> >> ===========================
>> >> >> Emily Jiang
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Emily
>> >> >> =================
>> >> >> Emily Jiang
>> >> >> [email protected]
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks
>> > Emily
>> > =================
>> > Emily Jiang
>> > [email protected]
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> Emily
> =================
> Emily Jiang
> [email protected]
>

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