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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
      Trustees (Mel Stotyn)
   2. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
      Trustees (John Curran)


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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 20:52:05 +0000
From: Mel Stotyn <mel.sto...@sjrb.ca>
To: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
        ARIN Board of Trustees
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John Curran said:
> ARIN (along with the other RIRs) is inevitably involved in setting the 
> strategic direction for the evolution of the Internet Number registry system.

This example of why a larger and (hopefully) more diverse board would be 
helpful seems to me an odd example. ?ARIN (along with the other RIRs)? results 
in a larger group with more diverse experience and certainly geographically 
diverse outlooks. A few more on one of the geographic participants doesn?t seem 
to be necessary in this case.

Mel Stotyn

From: ARIN-consult <arin-consult-boun...@arin.net> On Behalf Of John Comfort
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:36 PM
To: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>
Cc: <arin-consult@arin.net> <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN 
Board of Trustees

Does a six-member board not already provide a diversity of perspectives, 
geographic and gender participation?  It seems we're just re-iterating last 
year's "Diversity" agenda using more ambiguous language.  As WilliamH & BillW 
mentioned larger groups are less optimal.  However, BillW's "white-guy" comment 
is irrelevant.  Please stop adding race to the discussion.

The issue on expanding the board should not be based on gender, race or sexual 
orientation.  On the contrary, it should be based on efficiency, merit, 
experience, competence, or other requirements such as quorum.

If the board at six members cannot approve a measure with a minimum quorum 
because only half of the six show up at a meeting, then perhaps nine-member 
boards would suffice when there requires a certain minimum vote whether or not 
all are present.

JohnC


On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 1:29 PM, John Curran 
<jcur...@arin.net<mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote:
On 6 Apr 2018, at 4:07 PM, William Herrin 
<b...@herrin.us<mailto:b...@herrin.us>> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 3:35 PM, John Curran 
> <jcur...@arin.net<mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote:
>> Specifically, the question is simply how small of a Board does the ARIN
>> community feel comfortable when it comes to setting strategic direction
>> in sensitive matters that are too early to engage with the full community.
>
> John, that's mission creep. The community doesn't want ARIN or its
> board to set a strategic direction for the Internet or any part of it.
> That's not the proper role of a *registry*. A registry records and
> reports. They don't "direct.?

Alas, ARIN (along with the other RIRs) is inevitably involved in setting the 
strategic direction for the evolution of the Internet Number registry system.   
The impacted parties from such changes includes a significant portion of the 
Internet infrastructure, since they all rely in part upon our services for 
their success.   While we work hard to consult with the ARIN community 
regarding direction, it is not always possible for some of the more sensitive 
matters, and hence the breath of Internet knowledge of the ARIN Board can be 
crucial.

For example, in the case of the IANA stewardship transition, simply 
entertaining discussion of the potential could have resulted in legislative or 
regulatory responses that would have impacted not only the Internet number 
registry system, but other parts of the ecosystem including the DNS community, 
ICANN, and the IETF.   Understanding such potential risks isn?t possible unless 
you have Board of broad experience, more so than simply internet registry 
services.

> Respectfully, if ARIN's board lacks any breadth it is most likely
> because the membership who elected them reflect a similar breadth.
> That's a problem with the selection process for the board, not its
> size. As we also discussed last year.

It would be challenging, no matter how broad the ARIN community, to have a 
Board of three which covered all of the various portions of the affected 
Internet ecosystem, and that refutes the idea that the diversity of the 
community can assure breadth of knowledge of the resulting Board.

We have had truly incredible Board members with great breadth of knowledge in 
the past, and six elected Board members of such quality have sufficed, but even 
that?s uncertain going forward given less involvement from those who have led 
the Internet since day one and additional complexity of new layers such as 
cloud, mobile, CDN?s, and social media.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 20:59:32 +0000
From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>
To: John Comfort <j...@comfortconsulting.com>
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Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
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On 6 Apr 2018, at 4:35 PM, John Comfort 
<j...@comfortconsulting.com<mailto:j...@comfortconsulting.com>> wrote:

If the board at six members cannot approve a measure with a minimum quorum 
because only half of the six show up at a meeting, then perhaps nine-member 
boards would suffice when there requires a certain minimum vote whether or not 
all are present.

John -

We don?t have a quorum or engagement problem with the current Board; i.e. we 
generally have all (or all but one due to conflict) members present for our 
meetings and teleconferences.   Furthermore, routine business is taken care of 
promptly throughout the year by Board members who are generally attentive to 
their duties.

The concern raised in this community consultation on Board expansion is quite 
specific, and relates to the breadth of knowledge of the Board when it comes to 
setting ARIN?s strategic direction.  Often such discussions must start at the 
Board, in order to obtain sufficient approval to develop them further, since 
even the act of exploring them can have ramifications to ARIN mission.

For example, when the NANOG community was maturing and the concept of having a 
formal NANOG organization was raised, the ARIN Board had to discuss various 
options, such as supporting the initiative (which was the ultimate decision 
including initial organizational and financial support), but the options 
discussed also included possible directions that could have adversely impacted 
the initiative simply by being brought before the entire ARIN community.   
While we had a Board which had sufficient breadth of knowledge to consider the 
options in confidence, that was not assure to be the case given its relatively 
modest size.

I hope this helps clarify the consultation question - thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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