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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (John Curran)
2. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (Adam Brenner)
3. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (Jimmy Hess)
4. Re: Consultation on Expanding the Size of the ARIN Board of
Trustees (Alyssa Moore)
5. Re: Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the Size of the ARIN
Board of Trustees (David Farmer)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:04:36 +0000
From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>
To: Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com>
Cc: ARIN <i...@arin.net>, "arin-consult@arin.net"
<arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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On 10 Apr 2018, at 9:59 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:
>
> If we do decide to move forward with this, rather than having a complex
> process forever enshrined in Article VI section 4, might it not be more
> prudent to treat this as any other board shortage due to (e.g. resignation)?
>
> That is, upon the decision to increase the board from 6 to 9, rather than
> phasing in over 3 years, instruct the nominating committee to expand the
> candidate slate in the next election and then process the election results as
> follows:
> The top three candidates receiving the most votes are elected to three
> year terms.
> The next candidate is elected to a 2 year term.
> The candidate receiving the fifth highest number of votes is elected to
> a 1 year term.
>
> (This is already documented in section 7 of the bylaws)
Owen -
Indeed, that would be a simpler approach. Upon drafting the change in a
rather similar manner, it was pointed out to me during legal review that the
recommendaed practice is to phase in the new board seats over time, as this
provides for easier acclimation of new Board members, prevents sudden shifts in
direction that could come from a dramatic shift in composition, and avoids
creating a potential capture opportunity when adding a large number of seats in
one election.
While the transition language does remain in the Bylaws after its fulfilled
its usefulness, this is quite common (and can always be cleaned up in any
subsequent Bylaws update.)
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:21:53 -0700
From: Adam Brenner <a...@solidnetwork.org>
To: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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On 04/06/2018 11:14 AM, ARIN wrote:
> In May 2017, the ARIN Board of Trustees proposed expansion of the size
> of the Board of Trustees in order to increase opportunities for
> diversity in the background of Board members, including geographical and
> gender representation.
As an ARIN member who holds IPv4, IPv6 and AS resources, I do NOT agree
with this. If given the chance, I will vote NO.
I will give the same response I did last time when this was mentioned to
the community:
The first and *only* priority from ARIN should be seeking candidates who
are qualified for the position; diversity should not be in that
conversation.
In general:
If you are NOT qualified to do the work you are either NOT hired for the
position or you are fired from it. This is what happens around the world
in every business. ARIN's board should not be any different.
Is it up to the community (everyone) to decide which candidate should
represent them via the current ARIN voting process. Any person may
choose to vote on a candidate based on what ever factors *they* believe
in. This could be: qualification, diversity, background, random guess,
what region they are from, etc. ARIN simply needs to administer this
process. This process *is already fair* -- we the community
nominate/volunteer to run for the board AND elect the board. It has been
like that for years, the entire community voting on who gets into the
board. It is the ultimate democratic and fair process.
Nothing needs to change and no additional board seats should be added in
order to reach diversity. As said by others, simply adding more seats
does NOT guarantee a diverse board.
--
Adam Brenner, Chief Executive Officer
SolidNetwork Technologies, Inc.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:48:16 -0500
From: Jimmy Hess <mysi...@gmail.com>
To: Adam Brenner <a...@solidnetwork.org>
Cc: arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Brenner <a...@solidnetwork.org> wrote:
> The first and *only* priority from ARIN should be seeking candidates who are
> qualified for the position; diversity should not be in that conversation.
Agreed. A level of diversity in the demographics of board members
is not necessary, and
representation is not a superficial quality --- a board member from
any region, culture, and
demographic can represent ARIN members who are from any region,
culture, or demographic.
Qualified board members have the ability to represent the membership
regardless of their
own physical characteristics, or which region the board member
happens to come from through
their own experiences and through discussions with those they
represent at public meetings,
etc.
Diversity is not a good reason for expanding the board which also
incurs more annual expenses for ARIN
to maintain a larger board, and may have undesirable result of
reducing the effectiveness of
a board which is currently effective, since larger committees have
more difficulties coming into agreement.
Expanding the size also increases the risk of members voting in a
less-qualified or non-qualified
candidate onto the board, Because there are fewer qualified
candidates than openings available to
nominate, and the voting system will pick up someone with the most
votes, even if that is 1 vote.
--
-JH
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:00:59 +0000
From: Alyssa Moore <aly...@alyssamoore.ca>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysi...@gmail.com>
Cc: Adam Brenner <a...@solidnetwork.org>, arin-consult@arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on Expanding the Size of the
ARIN Board of Trustees
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Much of this conversation has veered into the weeds of diversity in terms
of things like gender and region, while it seems to me the proposal before
us has to do with increasing the diversity of professional backgrounds and
organizational representation.
There's a provision in the bylaws for appointing one seat per year. Rather
than adding traditional elected seats, perhaps that number could be
increased and constraints around appointments relaxed. This way the Board
could use it, when necessary (and perhaps it will be necessary most
years) to fill any vacuums they've identified. In an ideal democracy the
community would simply elect a group with a perfectly balanced skill-set
for known and unknown challenges they may face, but I don't think any of us
live in that world.
My $0.02 CAD (or $0.016 USD).
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:48 AM Jimmy Hess <mysi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Adam Brenner <a...@solidnetwork.org>
> wrote:
>
> > The first and *only* priority from ARIN should be seeking candidates who
> are
> > qualified for the position; diversity should not be in that conversation.
>
> Agreed. A level of diversity in the demographics of board members
> is not necessary, and
> representation is not a superficial quality --- a board member from
> any region, culture, and
> demographic can represent ARIN members who are from any region,
> culture, or demographic.
>
> Qualified board members have the ability to represent the membership
> regardless of their
> own physical characteristics, or which region the board member
> happens to come from through
> their own experiences and through discussions with those they
> represent at public meetings,
> etc.
>
> Diversity is not a good reason for expanding the board which also
> incurs more annual expenses for ARIN
> to maintain a larger board, and may have undesirable result of
> reducing the effectiveness of
> a board which is currently effective, since larger committees have
> more difficulties coming into agreement.
>
> Expanding the size also increases the risk of members voting in a
> less-qualified or non-qualified
> candidate onto the board, Because there are fewer qualified
> candidates than openings available to
> nominate, and the voting system will pick up someone with the most
> votes, even if that is 1 vote.
>
>
> --
> -JH
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Alyssa Moore
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:13:31 -0500
From: David Farmer <far...@umn.edu>
To: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Amended ACSP Consultation: Expanding the
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I am not opposed to the idea of expanding the board, a change from six to
nine elected board members with the CEO as an ex officio member seems
reasonable to me. However, I cannot support the current proposal as
written. The primary flaw I see in the current proposal is that it simply
expands the board without modifying how the board is selected. I believe
the issue at hand is as much about how the board is selected as much as it
is about the size of the board.
Currently, a combined slate of candidates is proposed by the nominating
committee for the two board positions up for election each year, and the
two candidates with the most votes from the combined slate are selected.
This sometimes degrades into a popularity contest. Name recognition plays
as big a role as the qualifications of a candidate in determining who
prevails, potentially leaving the board without necessary expertise even
though the slate may have included candidates with the necessary expertise.
Just adding another position selected by this same process, selecting the
three candidates with the most votes from the combined slate, I fear will
only have a nominal effect on the composition of the board, and simply
result in a larger board with many of the same issues.
In addition to expanding the board, I suggest each of the three board
positions up for election have a separate slate of two or more candidates
each year, instead of the current process with it's combined slate.
This allows the nominating committee, with advice from the board, to select
candidates with the expertise needed by the board to compete for a single
position and ensure a candidate with the necessary expertise will prevail
in the election. I don't think criteria for each position should be
enshrined in the bylaws, as the needs of the board will change and evolve
over time, but many of the issues discussed recently should be considered;
sector representation, organization types, etc...
Thanks.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM, ARIN <memb...@arin.net> wrote:
> (You are only receiving this final version.)
>
> In May 2017, the ARIN Board of Trustees proposed expansion of the size of
> the Board of Trustees in order to increase opportunities for diversity in
> the background of Board members, including geographical and gender
> representation. This proposal was the topic of an energetic community
> consultation with mixed outcome indicating both support and concerns with
> such a change. The ARIN Board considered the outcome of the consultation,
> but ultimately the measure did not achieve the four-fifths approval
> threshold necessary for changing ARIN's Bylaws.
>
> In February of this year, the ARIN Board discussed an additional issue
> related to the present size of the Board: specifically, the challenge that
> a smaller Board poses when engaging in strategic discussions, for example
> in regard to long-term direction or relationships with other Internet
> organizations. While many of these topics are discussed with the community
> prior to decision (e.g. formation of the NRO, support for the IANA
> Stewardship Transition), it is often up to the ARIN Board of Trustees to
> decide whether to explore these initiatives when they are at an early
> stage. There is a very wide diversity of the Internet ecosystem that can be
> affected by ARIN's strategic direction and this includes Internet service
> providers of all sizes and types (transit, access, etc.), Internet online
> and content industries, data center and cloud operators, educational and
> government networks, commercial firms, and civil society. While the
> Trustees elected by the community often have a bro
> ad knowledge of the Internet ecosystem, seven Trustees is a relatively
> small group to evaluate impacts across the entire Internet ecosystem.
>
> As a result of this discussion, the ARIN Board agreed to initiate a new
> community consultation to expand the number of elected Board members from
> six to nine, in order to allow for wider representation of the Internet
> community during Board discussions.
> Board proposal:
>
> ARIN should add three more elected voting seats to the Board of Trustees,
> raising the current six (two elected per year) to nine (three elected per
> year). New Board seats are to be added to the Board in a phased manner -
> one per year in the 2018 thru 2020 elections as noted below
> * October 2018: 3 Board members will be elected for 2019; 8 Trustee
> board (9 if the appointed seat is used)
> * October 2019: 3 Board members will be elected for 2020; 9 Trustee
> board (10 if the appointed seat is used)
> * October 2020: 3 Board members will be elected for 2021; 10 Trustee
> board (11 if the appointed seat is used)
>
> The link to the proposed Bylaws amendment necessary to effect such a
> change can be viewed at: https://www.arin.net/about_us/
> bot/20180216/exhibit_e.pdf
>
> We are seeking community feedback on this proposed change to the size of
> the ARIN Board of Trustees. This consultation will remain open for at least
> 30 days.
>
> Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net. You can subscribe to
> this mailing list at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult.
>
> Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net will close on 14 May 2018.
>
> If you have any questions, please contact us at i...@arin.net.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
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