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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Change is
      Now Closed (Steve Noble)
   2. Re: Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Change is
      Now Closed (William Herrin)
   3. Re: Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee Schedule Change is
      Now Closed (John Curran)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 09:55:45 -0700
From: Steve Noble <sno...@sonn.com>
To: ARIN Communications and Member Services <i...@arin.net>
Cc: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee
        Schedule Change is Now Closed
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I am highly concerned that while the responses to your rate hike suggestion
during the comment period were negative, this was still passed. I for one
am awaiting the transcript of the meeting to better understand who
advocated for this, why they did so and what information was provided about
the comments received.

Secondly, you are are also providing a FAQ that includes information about
returning _IPv6_ space to save money. If your customers are looking to save
money by returning IPv6 space due to your price changes, there is an issue
with your price changes. You should be championing the use of IPv6, not
discouraging it.

Thirdly, it would be useful to understand how many of the affected
organizations are ARIN members. Unless I misread it, we know that you
specifically targeted the smaller organizations with this change per John's
note to the list.

Thank you,
Steven

.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 9:56 AM ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:

> ARIN thanks those who provided valuable feedback during the Proposed
> 2018 Fee Schedule Change consultation. The Board considered the
> community input provided during the consultation at their meeting on 24
> May 2018, and thus have adopted a new Fee Schedule.
>
> The new Fee Schedule will be effective on 1 July 2018, and the new fees
> will be reflected in invoices due on and after 1 July 2018. More
> information regarding the new Fee Schedule is now available through
> arin-announce as well as on ARIN's Fee Schedule webpage at:
> https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html
>
> We thank everyone who participated in this discussion for their feedback.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:30:42 -0400
From: William Herrin <b...@herrin.us>
To: Steve Noble <sno...@sonn.com>
Cc: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee
        Schedule Change is Now Closed
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Steve Noble <sno...@sonn.com> wrote:
> I am highly concerned that while the responses to your rate hike suggestion
> during the comment period were negative, this was still passed. I for one am
> awaiting the transcript of the meeting to better understand who advocated
> for this, why they did so and what information was provided about the
> comments received.

I'm concerned that:

(A) As revealed in the consultation, the board was presented with only
one proposal for how to reshuffle fees.

(B) Despite fees being a contentious issue, the board was so damn LAZY
that no member asked to be presented with alternate proposals for how
to reshuffle fees. You folks weren't elected to put a rubber stamp on
things. If you think you were, please resign to make way for people
willing to make the effort.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



-- 
William Herrin ................ her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 17:48:41 +0000
From: John Curran <jcur...@arin.net>
To: BIll Herrin <b...@herrin.us>, Steve Noble <sno...@sonn.com>
Cc: "<arin-consult@arin.net>" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Consultation on the Proposed 2018 Fee
        Schedule Change is Now Closed
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On 12 Jun 2018, at 12:30 PM, William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Steve Noble <sno...@sonn.com> wrote:
>> I am highly concerned that while the responses to your rate hike suggestion
>> during the comment period were negative, this was still passed. I for one am
>> awaiting the transcript of the meeting to better understand who advocated
>> for this, why they did so and what information was provided about the
>> comments received.
> 
> I'm concerned that:
> 
> (A) As revealed in the consultation, the board was presented with only
> one proposal for how to reshuffle fees.

Bill (and Steve) - 

    As noted in the Fee Schedule change announcement, the adopted fee change 
that was adopted was altered based on the feedback received during this 
consultation.  

    There was significant feedback about raising fees for end-users, but 
predominately that feedback focused on the impact to legacy end-users under 
LRSA agreement, who had expectations that their fees would not increase 
significantly when entering voluntarily under the LRSA agreement. 

    As a result of the concerns expressed, the Board reviewed an alternative 
fee change proposal, the same in all aspects to the proposed fee change, only 
with the addition of extending the annual cap on maintenance fees (that early 
LRSA holders have) to all legacy resource holders.  In this manner, the fee 
change will have nominal impact for those legacy holders (and may be a 
reduction in some cases.)

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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