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   1. Re:  [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation
      on ARIN?s  Membership Structure (Paul Andersen - ARIN)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:33:27 -0400
From: Paul Andersen - ARIN <p...@arin.net>
To: Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com>
Cc: arin-consult <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult]  [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5:
        Consultation on ARIN?s  Membership Structure
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Mike,

The current threshold is 124. The threshold there suggests it lowers to 100. 
There will be as many ?  if not many more ? engaged general members. 

Where is it being raised?

P.



> On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I am commenting on the Bylaw changes just presented in the appropriate forum.
> Did I do something wrong by "tying it to the consultation"?
> 
> Why impose a minimum, what is the reasoning behind this change?
> 
> I see two successful petitions as black eyes because the petition system is a 
> fail-safe mechanism for NomCom overreach.
> The NomCom in this case prevented the membership from voting for two 
> qualified candidates, and that is the opposite of what the NomCom is for.
> Clearly the NomCom failed in this case, as I believe it failed in rejecting 
> my candidacy for the AC.
> 
> It doesn't have to occur every year, the evidence is right before us, and the 
> larger issue is not what happened, but the risk the current NomCom setup 
> presents to maintaining stakeholder governance. Yet this proposed change 
> actually accentuates NomCom power!
> 
> Regards,
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:33:19 -0400 Paul Andersen - ARIN <p...@arin.net> 
> wrote ----
> 
> Mike,
> 
> As noted we are not looking to get into individual NomCom feedback until the 
> current process has come closer to conclusion; however, as you are tying it 
> to this consolation I think it is important to raise that we don?t see 
> Petitions as ?Black Eyes? or a complete failure of the system. If they were 
> occurring every year that would be one thing - but one use of the petition 
> process in two decades speaks to the success of ARIN?s governance. That is 
> not to say there has not been much useful feedback and suggestions learned 
> from this cycle and as mentioned - they will be considered in due time.
> 
> The current threshold was well over 100 and both candidates were successful. 
> 
> P.
> 
> 
> On Oct 28, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com 
> <mailto:m...@iptrading.com>> wrote:
> 
> I oppose the language requiring a minimum of 100 votes for a successful 
> petition and I suggest the number of votes required for a successful petition 
> be lowered significantly, given the paltry number of participants on the ARIN 
> lists and the abbreviated timeframe for acquiring signatures. We are in a 
> time where the NomCom is being questioned severely, and when not one, but two 
> successful petitions have just completed. That?s two black eyes for the 
> NomCom, why in the world would we be making petitions harder at this time?
>  
> Regards,
> Mike
>  
>  
> From: ARIN-announce <arin-announce-boun...@arin.net 
> <mailto:arin-announce-boun...@arin.net>> On Behalf Of ARIN
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 4:47 PM
> To: arin-annou...@arin.net <mailto:arin-annou...@arin.net>
> Subject: [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s 
> Membership Structure
>  
> The purpose of this consultation is to provide our customers ARIN?s plan for 
> membership going forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN?s 
> membership structure for 2022.
> 
> With the change to a single fee schedule in 2022 (fee harmonization) for end 
> user and ISP organizations, ARIN wishes to open up participation in ARIN 
> governance to end user organizations that were previously unable to vote in 
> ARIN elections. When the end user organizations are transitioned to the 
> Registration Services Plan, they will be made Service Members of ARIN. This 
> category is an addition to the existing membership categories. The addition 
> of a new membership category requires a modification to the Bylaws, linked 
> below.
> 
> The distinguishing characteristic between Service and General Member 
> categories is related to the commitment to vote in ARIN?s elections. Any 
> Service Member organization may apply to become a General Member by 
> submitting a request and meeting the General Member criteria.
> 
> General members (whether existing or new ones who were previously end user 
> organizations and opted to become General Members) must participate in ARIN 
> Elections to maintain their status. Following the 2023 ARIN annual election 
> and each election thereafter, General Members that did not cast a ballot in 
> any of the previous three ARIN elections will become Service Members and will 
> not be eligible to apply for General Member status until after the coming 
> year.
> 
> Please view the proposed related Bylaws changes at: 
> https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf? 
> <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf>
> You may also review a more detailed description of the proposed 2022 
> Membership categories and related FAQ at: 
> https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/ 
> <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/>
> This consultation will remain open for 15 days, after which a summary will be 
> provided to the Board of Trustees for their consideration. This proposed 
> change to ARIN?s bylaws may be implemented independently or in addition to 
> any other bylaw changes approved by the Board (including consultation if 
> necessary) in accordance with the bylaws.
> 
> Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net 
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> Discussion on arin-consult@arin.net <mailto:arin-consult@arin.net> will close 
> on 12 November 2021.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>  
>  
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