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Re: [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s Membership Structure (Paul Andersen - ARIN) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:33:27 -0400 From: Paul Andersen - ARIN <p...@arin.net> To: Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> Cc: arin-consult <arin-consult@arin.net> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s Membership Structure Message-ID: <12d518ab-a5e7-4204-8c16-a70afc4df...@arin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mike, The current threshold is 124. The threshold there suggests it lowers to 100. There will be as many ? if not many more ? engaged general members. Where is it being raised? P. > On Oct 28, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > I am commenting on the Bylaw changes just presented in the appropriate forum. > Did I do something wrong by "tying it to the consultation"? > > Why impose a minimum, what is the reasoning behind this change? > > I see two successful petitions as black eyes because the petition system is a > fail-safe mechanism for NomCom overreach. > The NomCom in this case prevented the membership from voting for two > qualified candidates, and that is the opposite of what the NomCom is for. > Clearly the NomCom failed in this case, as I believe it failed in rejecting > my candidacy for the AC. > > It doesn't have to occur every year, the evidence is right before us, and the > larger issue is not what happened, but the risk the current NomCom setup > presents to maintaining stakeholder governance. Yet this proposed change > actually accentuates NomCom power! > > Regards, > Mike > > > > > > ---- On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:33:19 -0400 Paul Andersen - ARIN <p...@arin.net> > wrote ---- > > Mike, > > As noted we are not looking to get into individual NomCom feedback until the > current process has come closer to conclusion; however, as you are tying it > to this consolation I think it is important to raise that we don?t see > Petitions as ?Black Eyes? or a complete failure of the system. If they were > occurring every year that would be one thing - but one use of the petition > process in two decades speaks to the success of ARIN?s governance. That is > not to say there has not been much useful feedback and suggestions learned > from this cycle and as mentioned - they will be considered in due time. > > The current threshold was well over 100 and both candidates were successful. > > P. > > > On Oct 28, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com > <mailto:m...@iptrading.com>> wrote: > > I oppose the language requiring a minimum of 100 votes for a successful > petition and I suggest the number of votes required for a successful petition > be lowered significantly, given the paltry number of participants on the ARIN > lists and the abbreviated timeframe for acquiring signatures. We are in a > time where the NomCom is being questioned severely, and when not one, but two > successful petitions have just completed. That?s two black eyes for the > NomCom, why in the world would we be making petitions harder at this time? > > Regards, > Mike > > > From: ARIN-announce <arin-announce-boun...@arin.net > <mailto:arin-announce-boun...@arin.net>> On Behalf Of ARIN > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 4:47 PM > To: arin-annou...@arin.net <mailto:arin-annou...@arin.net> > Subject: [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s > Membership Structure > > The purpose of this consultation is to provide our customers ARIN?s plan for > membership going forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN?s > membership structure for 2022. > > With the change to a single fee schedule in 2022 (fee harmonization) for end > user and ISP organizations, ARIN wishes to open up participation in ARIN > governance to end user organizations that were previously unable to vote in > ARIN elections. When the end user organizations are transitioned to the > Registration Services Plan, they will be made Service Members of ARIN. This > category is an addition to the existing membership categories. The addition > of a new membership category requires a modification to the Bylaws, linked > below. > > The distinguishing characteristic between Service and General Member > categories is related to the commitment to vote in ARIN?s elections. Any > Service Member organization may apply to become a General Member by > submitting a request and meeting the General Member criteria. > > General members (whether existing or new ones who were previously end user > organizations and opted to become General Members) must participate in ARIN > Elections to maintain their status. Following the 2023 ARIN annual election > and each election thereafter, General Members that did not cast a ballot in > any of the previous three ARIN elections will become Service Members and will > not be eligible to apply for General Member status until after the coming > year. > > Please view the proposed related Bylaws changes at: > https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf? > <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf> > You may also review a more detailed description of the proposed 2022 > Membership categories and related FAQ at: > https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/ > <https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/> > This consultation will remain open for 15 days, after which a summary will be > provided to the Board of Trustees for their consideration. This proposed > change to ARIN?s bylaws may be implemented independently or in addition to > any other bylaw changes approved by the Board (including consultation if > necessary) in accordance with the bylaws. > > Please provide comments to arin-consult@arin.net > <mailto:arin-consult@arin.net>. 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