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1. Re: [arin-announce] ACSP Consultation
2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s Membership Structure (Mike Burns)
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:50:19 -0400
From: Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com>
To: "Mike Burns" <m...@iptrading.com>
Cc: "John Curran" <jcur...@arin.net>, "arin-consult@arin.net"
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Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce]
ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s Membership Structure
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Hi John,
Not to mention that if the general membership grows, so does the
already-too-high petition requirement, so why include the minimum language?
Regards,
Mike
---- On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 18:46:29 -0400 Mike Burns <m...@iptrading.com> wrote
----
Hi John,
I understand the desire to anticipate lots of new general members, but this is
still a change that works in the opposite direction of what is called for.
We shouldn't even need a petition process, it's been rarely utilized, and today
we have the shining example of two excluded, but qualified Board candidates.
I still have yet to hear anybody tell me why the NomCom should have the power
to exclude qualified candidates.
Nor why the more open and inclusive RIPE method shouldn't be adopted here.
We've had multiple people indicate the real historic need for the NomCom is in
finding candidates, let them stick to that.
Adding larger petition requirements is tone deaf.
Regards,
Mike
---- On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 17:38:09 -0400 John Curran <mailto:jcur...@arin.net>
wrote ----
Mike -
To be clear, the most recent petition process had a threshold of 124 members
(based on 2% of the 6183 eligible general members at election cutoff) ? the
proposed bylaw language would have had no effect since it simply sets a minimum
of 100 for
such a process.?
The reason for inclusion of this language is because we do not know what the
long-term general member count will be and felt that a modest floor was a
reasonable precaution. ? While we?re making it possible for more than 7000
end-user organizations
to now also become general members and participate in the election, we may see
some attrition of existing general members population (i.e. those who don?t
tend to vote in ARIN?s elections.)
Due to this uncertainty of the long-term general member count, it appeared
prudent to provide a minimum for this petition requirement even if never
needed.?
I hope this helps clarify the reasoning behind the proposed text ? there was no
intent to ?make petitions harder? and it would be non-operative language if
participation levels continue at present levels.
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
On 28 Oct 2021, at 5:05 PM, Mike Burns <mailto:m...@iptrading.com> wrote:
I oppose the language requiring a minimum of 100 votes for a successful
petition and I suggest the number of votes required for a successful petition
be lowered significantly, given the paltry number of participants on the ARIN
lists and the abbreviated timeframe
for acquiring signatures. We are in a time where the NomCom is being
questioned severely, and when not one, but two successful petitions have just
completed. That?s two black eyes for the NomCom, why in the world would we be
making petitions harder at this
time?
?
Regards,
Mike
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Subject:?[arin-announce] ACSP Consultation 2021.5: Consultation on ARIN?s
Membership Structure
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The purpose of this consultation is to provide our customers ARIN?s plan for
membership going
forward and to seek feedback on planned changes to ARIN?s membership structure
for 2022.
With the change to a single fee schedule in 2022 (fee harmonization) for end
user and ISP organizations, ARIN wishes to open up participation in ARIN
governance
to end user organizations that were previously unable to vote in ARIN
elections. When the end user organizations are transitioned to the Registration
Services Plan, they will be made Service Members of ARIN. This category is an
addition to the existing membership
categories. The addition of a new membership category requires a modification
to the Bylaws, linked below.
The distinguishing characteristic between Service and General Member categories
is related to the commitment to vote in ARIN?s elections. Any Service Member
organization may apply to become a General Member by submitting a request and
meeting the General Member criteria.
General members (whether existing or new ones who were previously end user
organizations and opted to become General Members) must participate in ARIN
Elections
to maintain their status. Following the 2023 ARIN annual election and each
election thereafter, General Members that did not cast a ballot in any of the
previous three ARIN elections will become Service Members and will not be
eligible to apply for General
Member status until after the coming year.
Please view the proposed related Bylaws changes
at:?https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/bylaws_redline_102821.pdf
You may also review a more detailed description of the proposed 2022 Membership
categories and related FAQ
at:?https://arin.net/participate/oversight/membership/index2022/
This consultation will remain open for 15 days, after which a summary will be
provided to the Board of Trustees for their consideration. This proposed change
to ARIN?s bylaws may be implemented independently or in addition to any other
bylaw changes approved by the Board (including consultation if necessary) in
accordance with the bylaws.
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Regards,
?
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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