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   1. Re: Short summary of requirements (was: Re: RPKI/IRR
      Consultation Reminder and Update) (Owen DeLong)


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Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 10:16:27 -0700
From: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>
To: John Curran <[email protected]>
Cc: Adam Thompson <[email protected]>, "<[email protected]>"
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Short summary of requirements (was: Re:
        RPKI/IRR Consultation Reminder and Update)
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> On Sep 15, 2023, at 05:14, John Curran <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Adam - 
> 
> I believe that would be:
> 
> Set aside some time when you can watch your network 
> Go into ARIN Online, and for each ROA, toggle ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? to 
> On for each ROA ? this will cause automatic generation of matching IRR route 
> objects. 

Perhaps: delete any overlapping or no longer desired IRR objects

> Watch your network carefully over the next few hours
> Declare success, and get on with life as usual?
> 
> The risk involved would be if the route objects that are automatically 
> created don?t match your current set and somehow conflict ? 
> but that?s unlikely since only a ?least-specific? route-object will be 
> created and any more specifics that you have would take precedence.
> 

Just a thought?

Owen

> Thanks!
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Adam Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> One thing I'm still unclear on after reading many, many words is: if *want* 
>> ARIN to manage everything for me automatically to the maximum extent 
>> possible, but I've already manually created both ROAs and IRR objects, is 
>> there a non-disruptive, non-service-affecting, path to get from my current 
>> state into this brave new fully-automated world?
>> Thanks,
>> -Adam Thompson
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ARIN-consult <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Curran
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:43 PM
>> To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [ARIN-consult] Short summary of requirements (was: Re: RPKI/IRR 
>> Consultation Reminder and Update)
>> 
>> Folks - 
>> 
>> Based on the discussion to date, I believe the following approach for 
>> synchronized route object creation for RPKI ROAs in ARIN Online would cover 
>> most of the expressed requirements ? 
>> 
>> ? In addition to the present ?Auto-renewing? attribute for a ROA, there 
>> would be ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? attribute for ROAs that could be set 
>> during ROA Creation or Manage ROA in ARIN Online
>> ? The ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? attribute could be On or Off, and would 
>> initially be set to the Organizational ?Automatic Matching IRR Object 
>> Creation for ROAs? default value ? which would be On unless/until changed 
>> otherwise by the organization. 
>> 
>> ? New ROAs created with ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? set to On would result 
>> in the matching route objects being created.
>> ? Customers could manage existing ROAs and turn "Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects?  
>> to On, in which case the matching route objects would be created.
>> 
>> ? Existing ROAs with ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? set to On that are then 
>> changed to Off would result in matching route objects being deleted ? but 
>> only if the route objects in question were automatically created.
>> ? Existing ROAs that are deleted or that expire with 
>> ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects set to On would result in matching route objects 
>> being deleted - but only if the route objects in question were automatically 
>> created.
>> 
>> ARIN would not change the ?Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects? for any existing ROAs, 
>> and these would be set to Off by default ? so as to avoid routing changes 
>> that would otherwise occur at time of matching route object feature rollout. 
>> (Customers with existing ROAs who wished automatic matching route objects to 
>> be created would just have to log into ARIN Online, and manage toggle 
>> Auto-Matching-IRR-Objects to On for each ROA.) 
>> 
>> Are there any particular comments or concerns with the above approach?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>> 
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>> 
>> 
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