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   1. Question/Suggestion on ASN registration (LayerBridge Internal)
   2. Re: Question/Suggestion on ASN registration (William Herrin)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:10:29 +0200
From: LayerBridge Internal <inter...@layerbridge.com>
To: "arin-consult@arin.net" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: [ARIN-consult] Question/Suggestion on ASN registration
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Hello there,

Hope I sent this mail correctly.. I don't know if I should do anything 
before proposing things here... but I'll get straight to the point.

I was wondering if ARIN (and its members) would consider benefical a 
different approach towards AS numbers... somewhat similar to how RIPE 
works. More specifically I think would be a better way for LIR/ISP to be 
able to register AS numbers on behalf of it's customers.
For example, in our situation, we are on a "X-Small" plan; having up to 
63 ASNs included in our plan scheme. Almost all companies would agree 
that 63 ASNs for a single entity is somehow too much. Most of us really 
use 1-5 ASNs at most.

Having the possibility to reallocate ASNs in the way we can reallocate 
unused IP space to end-users, would help us somehow to compensate the 
yearly fee we pay for membership, by charging a small amount on the 
End-User for the object maintenance.

Would that be something @ARIN would consider allowing LIRs to do?

Thank you,
Andrei.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 06:26:27 -0800
From: William Herrin <b...@herrin.us>
To: LayerBridge Internal <inter...@layerbridge.com>
Cc: "arin-consult@arin.net" <arin-consult@arin.net>
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Question/Suggestion on ASN registration
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 5:10?AM LayerBridge Internal via ARIN-consult
<arin-consult@arin.net> wrote:
> Almost all companies would agree that 63 ASNs for a single entity is somehow 
> too much. Most of us really use 1-5 ASNs at most.

Hi Andrei,

It depends how you're using them. If you're anycasting a prefix from a
lot of locations and you do so using different AS numbers, you can
then access routing data from RIS and Routeviews and find out which
announcement reached where without needing active probes. 32-bit AS
numbers aren't especially scarce and the RIB and FIB entries don't
take any more space when you announce with multiple numbers, so
there's no real downside to doing this.

When a separate organization needs AS numbers, I'd personally rather
see them get those numbers directly from ARIN rather than from their
ISP.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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