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To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to arin-consult-requ...@arin.net You can reach the person managing the list at arin-consult-ow...@arin.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ARIN-consult digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Question/Suggestion on ASN registration (LayerBridge Internal) 2. Re: Question/Suggestion on ASN registration (William Herrin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:10:29 +0200 From: LayerBridge Internal <inter...@layerbridge.com> To: "arin-consult@arin.net" <arin-consult@arin.net> Subject: [ARIN-consult] Question/Suggestion on ASN registration Message-ID: <8868a30e-34e0-4c21-9384-a83348323...@layerbridge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Hello there, Hope I sent this mail correctly.. I don't know if I should do anything before proposing things here... but I'll get straight to the point. I was wondering if ARIN (and its members) would consider benefical a different approach towards AS numbers... somewhat similar to how RIPE works. More specifically I think would be a better way for LIR/ISP to be able to register AS numbers on behalf of it's customers. For example, in our situation, we are on a "X-Small" plan; having up to 63 ASNs included in our plan scheme. Almost all companies would agree that 63 ASNs for a single entity is somehow too much. Most of us really use 1-5 ASNs at most. Having the possibility to reallocate ASNs in the way we can reallocate unused IP space to end-users, would help us somehow to compensate the yearly fee we pay for membership, by charging a small amount on the End-User for the object maintenance. Would that be something @ARIN would consider allowing LIRs to do? Thank you, Andrei. -- Logo <https://www.layerbridge.com> LayerBridge *Andrei Cojan* | Co-Founder & Administrator email: and...@layerbridge.com BGP Info: AS3280 <https://bgp.he.net/AS3280> For Europe: *LayerBridge SRL* Poligrafiei Blvd., No. 75, WhiteGate Building 1st District, Bucharest, Romania For US & Non-EU: *LayerBridge LLC* 8 The Green, STE R, Dover, Delaware 19901 United States Facebook icon <https://www.facebook.com/layerbridge> This message and any attachment are confidential and is protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. This correspondence and any and all documents attached to it shall not be qualified in each case as a contract offer unless LayerBridge SRL. has expressly agreed on the contrary. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: Fnjj0j5hfCQjPjb4.png Type: image/png Size: 1306 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-consult/attachments/20240223/32e19154/attachment-0003.png> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 06:26:27 -0800 From: William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> To: LayerBridge Internal <inter...@layerbridge.com> Cc: "arin-consult@arin.net" <arin-consult@arin.net> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] Question/Suggestion on ASN registration Message-ID: <CAP-guGXbFGuk10w7Bx_MfCq7wAKwFv=s1wpq4ra455zb2fz...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 5:10?AM LayerBridge Internal via ARIN-consult <arin-consult@arin.net> wrote: > Almost all companies would agree that 63 ASNs for a single entity is somehow > too much. Most of us really use 1-5 ASNs at most. Hi Andrei, It depends how you're using them. If you're anycasting a prefix from a lot of locations and you do so using different AS numbers, you can then access routing data from RIS and Routeviews and find out which announcement reached where without needing active probes. 32-bit AS numbers aren't especially scarce and the RIB and FIB entries don't take any more space when you announce with multiple numbers, so there's no real downside to doing this. When a separate organization needs AS numbers, I'd personally rather see them get those numbers directly from ARIN rather than from their ISP. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/ ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ ARIN-consult mailing list ARIN-consult@arin.net https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-consult ------------------------------ End of ARIN-consult Digest, Vol 104, Issue 10 *********************************************