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Today's Topics:
1. ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement (ARIN)
2. Re: ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement (Michael Burns)
3. Re: ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
(Martin Hannigan)
4. Re: ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement (David Farmer)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:15:15 -0400
From: ARIN <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
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ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
ARIN received the following policy proposal.
The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Mailing list subscription information can be found
at:https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
Proposal Originator: Martin Hannigan
Proposal Version: 1.0
Date: 29 October 2012
Proposal type: MODIFY
Policy term: PERMANENT
Policy statement:
Modify the following text in Section 8.4
Change all occurrences of "IPv4 number resources" to "IPv4 number
resources and ASNs".
Change all occurrences of "IPv4 address resources" to "IPv4 number
resources and ASNs".
Rationale:
We already allow transfer of ASNs within the ARIN region. The change
will accomplish two things. First there is inconsistent language in
8.4 eg "IPv4 Address" v. "IPv4 Number Resource(s)" and second, it will
allow the transfer of ASNs between RIRs through 8.4 and using the
standards we have already established for IPv4 transfers. For many of
the same reasons that we allow transfer of IP addresses, we should
allow transfers of ASNs and to help insure that idle resources are
both recovered and utilized efficiently and where needed.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:09:57 -0400
From: "Michael Burns" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer
enhancement
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Support.
The process has been shown to work for address space.
Mike Burns
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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 4:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
ARIN received the following policy proposal.
The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Mailing list subscription information can be found
at:https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
Regards,
Communications and Member Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
## * ##
ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
Proposal Originator: Martin Hannigan
Proposal Version: 1.0
Date: 29 October 2012
Proposal type: MODIFY
Policy term: PERMANENT
Policy statement:
Modify the following text in Section 8.4
Change all occurrences of "IPv4 number resources" to "IPv4 number
resources and ASNs".
Change all occurrences of "IPv4 address resources" to "IPv4 number
resources and ASNs".
Rationale:
We already allow transfer of ASNs within the ARIN region. The change
will accomplish two things. First there is inconsistent language in
8.4 eg "IPv4 Address" v. "IPv4 Number Resource(s)" and second, it will
allow the transfer of ASNs between RIRs through 8.4 and using the
standards we have already established for IPv4 transfers. For many of
the same reasons that we allow transfer of IP addresses, we should
allow transfers of ASNs and to help insure that idle resources are
both recovered and utilized efficiently and where needed.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:23:46 -0400
From: Martin Hannigan <[email protected]>
To: Michael Burns <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer
enhancement
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The one other point that I probably should have contributed as well is
that it also increases the accuracy of the whois significantly since
it brings what is happening below ground now above ground.
We covered that in the regional transfer discussion though so I think
this is well understood.
Best,
-M<
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Michael Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
> Support. The process has been shown to work for address space.
>
> Mike Burns
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: ARIN Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 4:15 PM
> To: [email protected] Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4
> Transfer enhancement
> ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
>
> ARIN received the following policy proposal.
>
> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
> to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
>
> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
> behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
> vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>
> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Mailing list subscription information can be found
> at:https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
>
> Regards,
>
> Communications and Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
> ## * ##
>
>
> ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
>
> Proposal Originator: Martin Hannigan
>
> Proposal Version: 1.0
>
> Date: 29 October 2012
>
> Proposal type: MODIFY
>
> Policy term: PERMANENT
>
> Policy statement:
>
> Modify the following text in Section 8.4
>
> Change all occurrences of "IPv4 number resources" to "IPv4 number
> resources and ASNs".
> Change all occurrences of "IPv4 address resources" to "IPv4 number
> resources and ASNs".
>
> Rationale:
>
> We already allow transfer of ASNs within the ARIN region. The change
> will accomplish two things. First there is inconsistent language in
> 8.4 eg "IPv4 Address" v. "IPv4 Number Resource(s)" and second, it will
> allow the transfer of ASNs between RIRs through 8.4 and using the
> standards we have already established for IPv4 transfers. For many of
> the same reasons that we allow transfer of IP addresses, we should
> allow transfers of ASNs and to help insure that idle resources are
> both recovered and utilized efficiently and where needed.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:01:02 -0500
From: David Farmer <[email protected]>
To: Michael Burns <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer
enhancement
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On 10/30/12 09:09 , Michael Burns wrote:
> Support. The process has been shown to work for address space.
>
> Mike Burns
I'm not fundamentally opposed to Inter-RIR transfers of ASNs. However,
I would like to know that their is actually interest from at least one
other RIR to develop the reciprocal policy necessary to make this a
functional policy. Otherwise this is purely an intellectual exercise,
and I believe we have enough other things to do without taking on purely
intellectual exercises.
I'm not aware of any of the other RIRs even having policy for local
transfer of ASNs in the works, let alone Inter-RIR transfers of ASNs.
So, I'd propose taking this on the docket, but not doing any work on it
until we see some work on the issue in one of the other RIRs, if no work
is started in one of the other RIRs within a policy cycle or two then I
would suggest we abandon it.
Thanks
> -----Original Message----- From: ARIN Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012
> 4:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183
> Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
> ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
>
> ARIN received the following policy proposal.
>
> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
> to utilize the proposal and announce the decision to the PPML.
>
> The AC invites everyone to comment on the proposal on the PPML,
> particularly their support or non-support and the reasoning
> behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
> vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their deliberations.
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>
> The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Mailing list subscription information can be found
> at:https://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
>
> Regards,
>
> Communications and Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
> ## * ##
>
>
> ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
>
> Proposal Originator: Martin Hannigan
>
> Proposal Version: 1.0
>
> Date: 29 October 2012
>
> Proposal type: MODIFY
>
> Policy term: PERMANENT
>
> Policy statement:
>
> Modify the following text in Section 8.4
>
> Change all occurrences of "IPv4 number resources" to "IPv4 number
> resources and ASNs".
> Change all occurrences of "IPv4 address resources" to "IPv4 number
> resources and ASNs".
>
> Rationale:
>
> We already allow transfer of ASNs within the ARIN region. The change
> will accomplish two things. First there is inconsistent language in
> 8.4 eg "IPv4 Address" v. "IPv4 Number Resource(s)" and second, it will
> allow the transfer of ASNs between RIRs through 8.4 and using the
> standards we have already established for IPv4 transfers. For many of
> the same reasons that we allow transfer of IP addresses, we should
> allow transfers of ASNs and to help insure that idle resources are
> both recovered and utilized efficiently and where needed.
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