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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ARIN 31 travel (Scott Leibrand)
2. Weekly posting summary for [email protected] (Thomas Narten)
3. Re: Justifying an ISP /22 (Owen DeLong)
4. Weekly posting summary for [email protected] (Thomas Narten)
5. Weekly posting summary for [email protected] (Thomas Narten)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:36:25 -0700
From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN 31 travel
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Thanks, Mark. Good info. I look forward to seeing you (all) sometime
after I arrive tomorrow evening.
It's worth noting that additional arrival information is published at
https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN-31/hotel.html, which also
has a link to a mailing list "for use by meeting registrants wishing to
connect with the family or guests of other registrants in order to plan
outside activities during ARIN meeting hours or evenings", which seems
perfect for follow-ups on this topic. I just subscribed. :-)
-Scott
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Mark Elkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not sure how appropriate this is but...
>
> Just arrived at the Hilton Barbados. Taxi fare is US$21.00 and there
> will be a Hotel Rep with sign board with your name on a list just as
> you are about to exit the Airport. They'll write out a receipt and
> should find a Taxi for you.
> --
> . . ___. .__ Posix Systems - (South) Africa
> /| /| / /__ [email protected] - Mark J Elkins, Cisco CCIE
> / |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS Tel: +27 12 807 0590 Cell: +27 82 601 0496
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:53:03 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for [email protected]
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:09:46 -0700
From: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>
To: "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Justifying an ISP /22
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 14:21 , "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:38 PM
> To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Justifying an ISP /22
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:41 PM, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Jumping on ppml late..
>>
>> Randy,
>>
>>> 1. Be an ISP with *any* amount of space from an upstream
>>
>> I'm not so sure this would be advisable? Wouldn't it be better to have
>
>> at least a /24? Or is this what you had in mind?
>>
>
>>> In at least one case, part of the problem is he can't even get a /24
> from his upstreams. This will become a more and more prevalent problem
> as runout continues to progress.
>
> I see your point and that is a concern as well. So, as runout continues
> do you think it would be advisable to accept any PA space as Randy
> suggested?
>
I think it would be better to simply eliminate the PA space requirement
and simply require documented need.
>
>>> 4. Be forced to take an automatic IPv6 allocation (at whatever
>> NRPM-supported size is appropriate (preferably /32 min.))
>
>>> I'm not sure I buy this, either. As much as I support IPv6 and favor
> increased
>>> IPv6 rollout (the sooner we're off v4 the better we will all be), I
> don't believe that inflicting IPv6 allocations on people that aren't
> ready to ask for them does anything other than skew statistics.
>
> I see the point here also. I think most that take an IPv6 allocation
> don't immediately deploy so the statistics could be skewed anyway?
> New networks should have the mind set of IPv6 anyway but I agree forcing
> doesn't seem like the best way but then again...
Sure, but I don't see force-feeding as helping that situation. At least if they
asked for it, it's a case of they intended to do something with it or felt that
there was some benefit to having it.
Owen
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:03:55 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Total of 35 messages in the last 7 days.
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Messages | Bytes | Who
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17.14% | 6 | 26.73% | 79053 | [email protected]
8.57% | 3 | 7.79% | 23040 | [email protected]
8.57% | 3 | 7.13% | 21076 | [email protected]
8.57% | 3 | 6.75% | 19976 | [email protected]
8.57% | 3 | 6.09% | 18006 | [email protected]
8.57% | 3 | 5.32% | 15721 | [email protected]
5.71% | 2 | 5.82% | 17228 | [email protected]
5.71% | 2 | 4.69% | 13862 | [email protected]
5.71% | 2 | 4.45% | 13163 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 5.87% | 17370 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 4.62% | 13652 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 3.15% | 9311 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 2.76% | 8154 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 2.58% | 7627 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 2.28% | 6739 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 2.17% | 6428 | [email protected]
2.86% | 1 | 1.81% | 5358 | [email protected]
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100.00% | 35 |100.00% | 295764 | Total
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:07:07 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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