Why would we want to restrict from allocation to individuals if they can justify it? Very opposed to that alone, above and beyond my opposition to regional restrictions.
-Blake On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Brian Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 to your suggestion: > > > " > This policy is not intended to have any retroactive effect. It should not > be construed to effect or invalidate any assignment or allocation > previously made by ARIN, one of its predecessor registries, or any ISP or > other LIR, based on good faith application information. In particular > direct assignments previously made to individuals are not invalidated by > this policy. However, this policy is intended to disallow any new > assignment or allocation made directly to an individual person, as is > current operational practice. > " > > -- > Brian > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM, David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 9/12/13 21:41 , David Farmer wrote: >> >>> On 9/12/13 13:19 , William Herrin wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:25 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> X. Resource Justification within ARIN Region >>>>> Organizations requesting Internet number resources from ARIN must >>>>> provide proof that they (1) are an active business entity legally >>>>> operating within the ARIN service region, and >>>>> >>>> >>>> I am not an active business entity, hence my AS number registration >>>> (AS 11875), used for multihomed network entirely in the U.S. State of >>>> Virginia would violate this policy as drafted. >>>> >>>> I tend to think of that as a bad thing. >>>> >>> >>> I don't believe individuals (as an individual person) are allowed to >>> request resources any longer. A business could be a sole >>> proprietorship, and in every day terms there isn't that much difference, >>> but legally there is I believe. >>> >>> But, your historical individual assignment isn't intended to be in >>> violation of this policy. The policy is intended to apply to requesting >>> (new or additional) resources. Just as it is intended to apply to how >>> you justify resources, not how you use them in your network once >>> allocated or assigned. >>> >> >> Thinking about this a little more, this policy is not intended to be an >> ex post facto rule, nor in general do I think it is appropriate for any >> policy to have retroactive effect without some extraordinary reason and >> justification for such an effect. Furthermore, I don't think ARIN staff >> would consider any policy to have retroactive effect without very explicit >> direction from the community that a policy should have such an effect, and >> calling that out in the staff and legal review. >> >> For an abundance of clarity I'd be happy to add something like the >> following in the Advisory Council Comments section before the text freeze; >> >> This policy is not intended to have any retroactive effect. It should >> not be construed to effect or invalidate any assignment or allocation >> previously made by ARIN, one of its predecessor registries, or any ISP or >> other LIR, based on good faith application information. In particular >> direct assignments previously made to individuals are not invalidated by >> this policy. However, this policy is intended to disallow any new >> assignment or allocation made directly to an individual person, as is >> current operational practice. >> >> >> -- >> ==============================**================== >> David Farmer Email: [email protected] >> Office of Information Technology >> University of Minnesota >> 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 >> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 >> ==============================**================== >> ______________________________**_________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/**listinfo/arin-ppml<http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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