FYI, Proposal 191, was just advanced as Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8 "Subsequent Allocations for Additional Discrete Network Sites"

On 11/25/13, 17:45 , David Huberman wrote:
Which one is 191, please?

David R Huberman
Microsoft Corporation
Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)

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From: Owen DeLong <[email protected]>
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To: David Huberman
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Bootstrapping new entrants after IPv4 exhaustion

I actually like and could support this.

(Though I don’t think it’s a panacea for the ISP vs. end-user debate in its 
entirety, from a policy perspective, I’m fine with the policy as expressed.)

The one caveat is that I wouldn’t want to see this implemented in such a way 
that it would potentially interfere with what is currently known as proposal 
191 if that achieves consensus (which I think is likely).

Owen

On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:45 PM, David Huberman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Scott wrote:

I'm not sure it's all that helpful to ask me to re-justify the entire NRPM.
That requirement, in a more strict form, is what is present in the NRPM today.

But we can't make policy for policy's sake. ARIN exists to, in part, provide 
number resources to the operator community who needs them.  Section 4 of the 
NRPPM serves the needs of the network operator community circa 1996, not 2014 
and beyond.   So how about:

4.2.0:

An ISP can obtain an initial allocation of a /24 or larger by demonstrating a 
need to use at least 25% of the space within 90 days, and at least 50% of the 
space within one year.

4.2.1

An ISP can obtain an additional allocations by demonstrating 80% or better 
utilization of existing address space. The additional allocation block size 
determination uses the criterion in 4.2.0

4.3.0

An end-user can obtain an initial assignment of a /24 or larger by 
demonstrating a need to use at least 25% of the space within 90 days, and at 
least 50% of the space within one year.

4.3.1

An end-user can obtain an additional assignment by demonstrating 80% or better 
utilization of existing address space. The additional assignment block size 
determination uses the criterion in 4.3.0

Throw in a section on SWIP, keep 4.5 MDN as-is, and presto, you're done with 
section 4, and you've fixed NRPM 8.3 and you've harmonized the very broken ISP 
v End-user mechanic.

Doesn't this serve the network operator community in 2014 better than making 
small changes to walls and walls of text from 1996?

David R Huberman
Microsoft Corporation
Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
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