William, Thanks for your thoughts.
I proposed the policy for two reasons: 1) There are unanticipated consequences of the anti-flip language that make it impossible for companies to both be truthful with ARIN and to move blocks where they need to be. Think of a large international network which sources addresses from ARIN for its backbone. When it needs to move a block to APNIC-region registries due to both technical and geo-location reasons, it is unable to do so if it received space from ARIN within the last 12 months. The "subsidiaries" part is due to legal realities: the holding company in APNIC region is legally distinct from the HQ organization. Again, the policy motivates lying to ARIN to get things done, and that's a lose-lose. 2) Anti-flipping language is obsolete with ARIN exhausted of large blocks, so when thinking about the policy, I originally wanted to just remove it. But the PPML reality is I didn't think people would go for it, so to concentrate on the actual problem I wanted solved, I proposed an intermediate step. I hope you will support the revised language, as it is intended to allow network operators to properly and honestly manage their registrations. /david David R Huberman Microsoft Corporation Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:44 AM To: Bill Darte Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2014-2: Improving 8.4 Anti-Flip Language On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 7:11 AM, Bill Darte <[email protected]> wrote: > What if an organization > wishes to transfer to an 'existing' subsidiary....is that the same > organization? Howdy, For consistency's sake with the rest of the NRPM, it is not the same organization. > ...and, is this issue 'really' of concern given the late date relative > to ARIN free-pool run out? I'd find that a reasonable argument for eliminating the anti-flipping provisions entirely. As an argument for creating unfairness in the anti-flipping provisions, and worse: unfairness biased against the domestic folks it is ARIN's core mission to serve, I find that argument unpersuasive. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
