Personally, not sure if we should allow any transfer in a world of diminishing resources, use it or loose it..

But I speak definitely in favor of NOT allowing transfers less than /24, and since SWIP isn't allowed for /32 right now... (correct?)

I suggest no smaller than a /29

On 14-03-19 11:04 AM, David Huberman wrote:
Hi Scott,

If I understand your argument – and I’m not sure I do, sorry – you’re
saying that it’s good to have a policy that SPs can point to and say,
“no, you can’t take that /32 we assigned to you with you”?  If that’s
what you’re arguing, then why is a /24 any different than a /32? We see
/24s assigned by SPs to their customers all the time.

Secondly, if this is your argument, why is this not a matter for legal
and contracts, rather than a number registry which is not appointed by
the IETF or NANOG or any other engineering body as the regulator of what
size block is acceptable to regulate? I’m not being flippant and I’m not
trying to be a jerk.  I think this kind of reasoning (and 1000 apologies
if I misunderstood your argument) is way outside the purview of ARIN.

Thanks!

/david

*David R Huberman*

Microsoft Corporation

Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)

*From:*Scott Leibrand [mailto:scottleibr...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:00 AM
*To:* David Huberman
*Cc:* ARIN-PPML List
*Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] 2014-3 Remove 8.2/8.3/8.4 Minimum IPv4 Block
Size Requirements

I am not speaking in favor of the status quo (a /24 minimum transfer size).

However, IMO having a /32 IPv4 minimum transfer size (no limit) would be
a bad idea.  There have been several cases where entities who are
completely ignorant of Internet routing think they have some "right" to
a particular /32, and wish to transfer it.  IMO, having *some* minimum
transfer size is a good way to prevent such efforts from being imposed
on the rest of us.  (If ARIN can point to policy saying "that simply
isn't allowed", they're in a much better position than trying to argue
the particulars of each case.)

I would have no problem reducing the minimum IPv4 transfer size, just
not all the way to /32.  So I oppose the proposal as written, but could
support a revised version.

-Scott




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