My issue with this proposal is that it might create an expectation that operators will start routing that space. I just see a s**t storm when Customer A gets a /29 and no one can reach it. I see it, in the long term, generating a lot of problems.

Aaron

On 3/20/2014 3:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

On Mar 20, 2014, at 13:01 , Heather Schiller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

As a shepherd for this proposal, I would like to solicit community feedback on the proposed text.

Aside from the general support/against.. some things to consider:

Do you concur with or have any comment on the problem statement?

I do not concur with the problem statement.

If you support the problem statement, do you support removing section 8.2 as the correct path for remediating this conflict? Do you have other suggestions for how to handle this?

No.

If you are opposed, what concerns do you have about implementing this policy?

I have previously stated my concerns. IMHO, this is yet another attempt to bypass the needs-basis and seeks to solve a problem which does not, in fact, exist.

Owen


Thanks,
--Heather



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, ARIN <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 20 February 2014 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
    "ARIN-prop-199 Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization
    Requirements" as a Draft Policy.

    Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9 is below and can be found at:
    https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2014_9.html

    You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of Draft
    Policy 2014-9 on the Public Policy Mailing List.

    The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to assess the
    conformance
    of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet Number
    Resource
    Policy as stated in the PDP. Specifically, these principles are:

      * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
      * Technically Sound
      * Supported by the Community

    The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found at:
    https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html

    Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
    https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html

    Regards,

    Communications and Member Services
    American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)


    ## * ##


    Draft Policy ARIN-2014-9
    Resolve Conflict Between RSA and 8.2 Utilization Requirements

    Date: 4 March 2014

    Problem Statement:

    8.2 transfer policy has utilization requirements at the time of
    the review of the transfer request.

    The RSA section 6 expressly forbids ARIN from de-registering
    blocks (in whole or in part) due to under-utilization or
    no-justification during transfer requests.

    This is a direct conflict.

    Return and aggregate are not done in collaboration; they are
    coerced by policy without the willing consent of the transfer
    parties.

    We should remove all utilization references from 8.2 language to
    ensure the policy is compliant with the RSA.

    Policy statement:

    Remove from 8.2:
    "In the event that number resources of the combined organizations
    are no longer justified under ARIN policy at the time ARIN
    becomes aware of the transaction, through a transfer request or
    otherwise, ARIN will work with the resource holder(s) to return,
    aggregate, transfer, or reclaim resources as needed to restore
    compliance via the processes outlined in current ARIN policy."

    Comments:
    a.Timetable for implementation: Immediate
    b.Anything else:





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