Oops, buffer overflow. Wrong thread. Simply, +1 for this thread.
On Friday, April 4, 2014, Martin Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Same, +1. > > Which isn't Section 11 a better place to address this? > > Best, > > -M< > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David Huberman < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Support in principle, strongly opposed as written. > > > > ARIN is a registry, not a regulator. Networks with global reach should > not have regulatory rules placed on them by ARIN whose job is primarily to > record number assignments, not make rules which affect network topology. > Thus I support the idea that numbers should not be bound to arbitrary > political boundaries. > > > > I oppose this draft as written, however, because it adds hundreds of > words to NRPM where only a few are needed to address the stated goal. The > problem statement indicates: " The next logical option is to discuss a > proposal that clearly permits out of region use without limits". Well ok. > If you wanted to do that explicitly in policy, how about: > > > > Section 1.x - ARIN-issued number resources may be used on > equipment located anywhere. > > > > All the rest of the text that I see in this draft come down to, "if you > have resources in other RIRs, we'll audit them to ensure you aren't double > dipping." Policy already allows that: > > > > "ISPs must have efficiently utilized all previous allocations > and at least 80% of their most recent allocation > > in order to receive additional space." > > > > " In order to justify an additional assignment, end-users must > have efficiently utilized at least 80% of all > > previous assignments, and must provide ARIN with utilization > details" > > > > We need to simplify NRPM and start peeling back a lot of this > over-regulatory policy. To do so, let's write clearer and more concise > policy proposals, please. > > > > David R Huberman > > Microsoft Corporation > > Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS) > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of David Farmer > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:23 AM > > To: ARIN PPML > > Subject: [arin-ppml] Update: 2014-1 Out of Region Use > > > > Based on the discussion at the PPC in Atlanta (link below), the > following changes are proposed. > > > > > https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ppc_nanog60/webcast/2014-1.mov > > > > There is a summary of the changes and a red-lined version of the policy > text with new and deleted text highlighted following the complete Draft > Policy. > > > > ---- > > > > Draft Policy ARIN-2014-1 > > Out of Region Use > > > > Date: 28 March 2014 > > > > Problem statement: > > > > Current policy neither clearly forbids nor clearly permits out or region > use of ARIN registered resources. This has created confusion and > controversy within the ARIN community for some time. Earlier work on this > issue has explored several options to restrict or otherwise limit out of > region use. None of these options have gained consensus within the > community. The next logical option is to discuss a proposal that clearly > permits out of region use without limits, beyond those already existing in > policy. > > > > Permitting out of region use, however, poses issues that have to be > addressed by policy and adjustments to operational practice. Out of region > use needs a clear definition and any operational practices based on that > definition must not be unnecessarily burdensome. It is significantly more > difficult and costly for ARIN Staff to independently verify the > justification and utilization of resources that are reassigned or otherwise > used outside of the ARIN service region. There needs to be recognition of > this difference in policy and associated operational practices, especially > the cost differential when there is more than an incidental amount of out > of region use. > > > > Policy statement: > > > > Create new Section X; > > > > X. Out of Region Use > > > > ARIN registered resources may be used outside the ARIN service region > and such use is valid justification for new or additional resources. > Resources are considered to be used outside the region if the user or > customer service address or the technical infrastructure address, such as > the point of presence (POP), data center, or other similar location, are > outside the ARIN service region. > > > > There is a general presumption that requesting resources from ARIN for > use within another RIR's service region duplicates any resources held by > the organization with that other RIR. Therefore, the organization should, > not hold any resources with the other RIR, or demonstrate that all such > resources held are utilized based on ARIN policy requirements, or provide > an operational justification clarifying how the resources from ARIN will > not duplicate any underutilize
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