On 14-06-04 07:05 AM, Blake Dunlap wrote:
I would actually prefer to find a way to resolve the problem of
entities not caring about their whois being
accurate^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H resources being properly registered to
them. It's rather pointless to have any rules without them actually
mattering.

I think this is the most important thing, and the area we have to help ARIN get more enforcement teeth.

13. TERM AND TERMINATION

(b) Termination of Suspension of Services for Cause by ARIN, ARIN shall have the right to stop Services pursuant to any breach of Section 2(c), 2(e), 4 or 7. In addition, ARIN may exercise its judgement to immediately stop Services upon written notice to Holder if Holder breaches Sections 2(c), 2(d), 7, or 11. <clipped>

Which references ..

2. CONDITIONS OF SERVICE

(c) Information and Cooperation. Holder has completed an application provided by ARIN for one or more Services (the "Application"). Holder MUST (i) promptly notify ARIN if any informatin provided in the Application changes during the term of this Agreement, and (ii) promptly, accurately, and completely respond to any inquiry Holder by ARIN during the term of this Agreement. In addition, Holder shall promptly provide ARIN with complete and accurate information, and coppoeration as required by any Service Terms or that ARIN requests in connection with ARIN's provision of any of the Services to the Holder. If Holder does not provide ARIN with such information or cooperation that ARIN requests, ARIN may take such failure into account in evaluating Holders' subsequent requests for transfer, allocation or assignment of additional resources, or requests for changes to any Service.

(d) Prohibited Conduct by Holder. In using any of the Services, Holder shall not: (i) disrupt or interfere with the security or use of any of the Services; (ii) violate any applicable laws, statuses, rules, or regulations; or (iii) assist any third party in engaging in any activities prohibited by any Service Terms.

(7 and 11 are mostly to protect ARIN itself, so we ignore them for this thread)

....

Now it seems that ARIN does 'take such failure into account'... when someone reports a report, however the issue is that it does NOT exercise 13 on contraventions. It has been pointed out that sometimes it is very hard for ARIN to conduct the 'written' notice, when the information is incorrect (I am sure a clause could be written that says registered letter to the last known address being sufficient) however I believe ARIN needs to take a stronger role in exercising section 13 rights when inaccurate or no whois information is maintained.

Also, when 'fake' delegations are made and advertised (or in transfers as previously mentioned) that should also be addressed by acting on Section 13, however it might be harder to prove.

Also, while very controversial, especially given the issues with US control being discussed, section 2(d)(ii) and 2(d)(iii) should be examined, in terms of does ARIN have the mandate to act on those?

Some hosting companies have a 'turn the blind eye' to the activities of on their IP space. (I had one conference with a company who blatantly said, what we don't monitor, we can't get sued for)

And also, the jurisdiction of the 'laws' that are being broken vary from region to region, and this isn't directly addressed in the agreements. (Can ARIN suspend agreements for laws broken in US, but not the jurisdiction of operation?)

More work is needed on clear mandates, both in the wording of agreements, as well as directions from the Board as to when/where/how hard they should act on section 13.

(Ps, what about IP space being lent to the hackers recently in the news, is the company that gave/lent/rent them that space to them culpable? Slippery slope.)

Especially with diminishing IP space, ARIN needs to have a clearer mandate on getting some IP space back, if the operators don't keep up clear rwhois records, or use the space or allow it to be used for nefarious reasons.

(And, from a personal perspective.. it seems wrong that over 600k IP(s) are being used strictly to push car/life insurance, the latest Dr Oz, all from throw away domains, in contravention of most anti-spam laws, and even worse, that 'usage' of current IP space can be used as justification for receiving more IP space by the hosters that allow that activity, and for much of that space, proper rwhois records are not in place. End Vent/Rant)






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